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#1: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 08:19:52 by sean

Ok, I'll probably get yelled at for this too.

I wanted to listen to as many versions of One Note Samba as I could. So I
used Limewire, a file exchange application that my kids told me about. (I
have stressed over and over to them that if they like some music they
download this way, they had better buy the recording or they'll be bad.)

So, among the many versions, I got a version by the Modern Jazz Quartet and
Laurindo Almeida. I've always thought that the MJQ is one of those
respectable jazz outfits that one should feel ok about...respecting.

But lo! and behold, the album this version of ONS came from is called "Soft
Jazz Collection."

So what the hell.

Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?

I am so conflicted. By the way, tonight I watched the movie Jarhead. I
recommend it.

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#2: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 12:36:55 by richieb

Sean wrote:
> Ok, I'll probably get yelled at for this too.

[...]

> Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
> boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?
>

You should join www.emusic.com. There are 39 versions of "One Note
Samba" there - includings ones by John Pizzarelli, Ella Fitzgerald and
Stan Getz. Emusic costs $10/month (or $100/year) for a basic
subscription which lets you download 40 tracks a month.

They have a very good jazz selection, it's all legal and they supply
plain mp3 files without DRM.

I use it a lot when learning new tunes - I download bunch of versions
and listen to those a lot.

....richie

P.S. Friends don't let friends buy Kenny G! ;-)

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#3: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 13:07:20 by LarryV

Limewire is a risky application as it's easy to get infected with
spyware, trojans, or viruses when using it. Make sure you keep your AV
defs up to date and scan all files you download. My daughter used to
run Limewire and it was killing the bandwidth on my home LAN until I
blocked the ports on my router. Personally, I'd go through legitimate
channels, most of them offer audio clips so you can get a general idea
of what an album sounds like.


<a href="mailto:richieb&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">richieb&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt; Sean wrote:
&gt; &gt; Ok, I'll probably get yelled at for this too.
&gt;
&gt; [...]
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
&gt; &gt; boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; You should join www.emusic.com. There are 39 versions of &quot;One Note
&gt; Samba&quot; there - includings ones by John Pizzarelli, Ella Fitzgerald and
&gt; Stan Getz. Emusic costs $10/month (or $100/year) for a basic
&gt; subscription which lets you download 40 tracks a month.
&gt;
&gt; They have a very good jazz selection, it's all legal and they supply
&gt; plain mp3 files without DRM.
&gt;
&gt; I use it a lot when learning new tunes - I download bunch of versions
&gt; and listen to those a lot.
&gt;
&gt; ...richie
&gt;
&gt; P.S. Friends don't let friends buy Kenny G! ;-)

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#4: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:57:26 by Gerry

In article &lt;C0E5C016.133B2%<a href="mailto:notsean&#64;fake.ca" target="_blank">notsean&#64;fake.ca</a>&gt;, Sean &lt;<a href="mailto:notsean&#64;fake.ca" target="_blank">notsean&#64;fake.ca</a>&gt;
wrote:

&gt; Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
&gt; boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?

In big ways and little ways there are always ehtical issues to deal
with: but they are YOUR ethical issues. You should do exactly as you
think you should do. Self-flaggelation may make you feel better. Me,
I could care less. I had the same ethical angst at one time. Since
then I've downloaded a jillion tunes and don't feel any qualms because
I still pour a heap of money into the industry paying it directly to
artists. In fact, as a result of music encountered this way I continue
to spend more than ever.

In the big sense I guess it's important to pay the business entities
and descendants of the people who produced this music. I don't want to
feel like I'm screwing Laurindo Almeida or Milt Jackson out of a buck.
And I don't. But as for Sony and EMI, I don't really care. They don't
care about music, they care about money. I don't care about money, I
care about music.

&gt; I am so conflicted.

It's tough all over. iTunes is probably the easiest and cheapest way
to address this periodic situation.

--
The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who
are undecided. -- Casey Stengel

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#5: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:57:47 by Gerry

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1153480040.660769.50080&#64;p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153480040.660769.50080&#64;p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
LarryV &lt;<a href="mailto:larryv&#64;rcn.com" target="_blank">larryv&#64;rcn.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt; Limewire is a risky application as it's easy to get infected with
&gt; spyware, trojans, or viruses when using it.

Assuming, of course, that you're using Windows.

--
Ten years searching in the deep forest. Today great laughter at the edge of the
lake. -- Soen

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#6: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:21:49 by kitekrazy

<a href="mailto:richieb&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">richieb&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt; Sean wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Ok, I'll probably get yelled at for this too.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; [...]
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
&gt;&gt;boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; You should join www.emusic.com. There are 39 versions of &quot;One Note
&gt; Samba&quot; there - includings ones by John Pizzarelli, Ella Fitzgerald and
&gt; Stan Getz. Emusic costs $10/month (or $100/year) for a basic
&gt; subscription which lets you download 40 tracks a month.
&gt;
&gt; They have a very good jazz selection, it's all legal and they supply
&gt; plain mp3 files without DRM.
&gt;
&gt; I use it a lot when learning new tunes - I download bunch of versions
&gt; and listen to those a lot.
&gt;
&gt; ...richie
&gt;
&gt; P.S. Friends don't let friends buy Kenny G! ;-)
&gt;

I use iTunes. You pay per song, no monthly fee. If you want a non DMR
copy you just burn the song to a CDRW and then rip it. No big deal. You
can also record it through an audio editor.

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#7: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-21 21:11:04 by sean

On 7/21/06 3:36 AM, in article
<a href="mailto:1153478215.285527.283690&#64;m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153478215.285527.283690&#64;m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com</a>, &quot;<a href="mailto:richieb&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">richieb&#64;gmail.com</a>&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:richieb&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">richieb&#64;gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;
&gt; Sean wrote:
&gt;&gt; Ok, I'll probably get yelled at for this too.
&gt;
&gt; [...]
&gt;
&gt;&gt; Should I buy the CD or just delete the version? I want to be a good altar
&gt;&gt; boy. But I like the tune. What if the rest of the album is Kenny G.?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; You should join www.emusic.com. There are 39 versions of &quot;One Note
&gt; Samba&quot; there - includings ones by John Pizzarelli, Ella Fitzgerald and
&gt; Stan Getz. Emusic costs $10/month (or $100/year) for a basic
&gt; subscription which lets you download 40 tracks a month.

I'll give it a try, but some of those things don't work outside the US
because of &quot;licensing restrictions.&quot; Still, that would be a very reasonable
price to pay.

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#8: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-22 00:04:04 by matt at unixkaiser dot com

I got rid of my file sharing stuff a while ago, but the result of me
discovering music that way from all over the planet (at no risk of
paying for crap) was that I bought 4 times more CDs.

emusic is pretty cool. I joined based on feedback from this NG, but the
music selection is the calculation of someone who doesn't know me. I
think the organic nature of p2p made for a richer experience.

Matt

Gerry wrote:
&gt; Since
&gt; then I've downloaded a jillion tunes and don't feel any qualms because
&gt; I still pour a heap of money into the industry paying it directly to
&gt; artists. In fact, as a result of music encountered this way I continue
&gt; to spend more than ever.
&gt;

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#9: Re: Limewire confession & Soft Jazz

Posted on 2006-07-22 09:14:34 by Gerry

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:FradnVKN-rrT0lzZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d&#64;adelphia.com" target="_blank">FradnVKN-rrT0lzZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d&#64;adelphia.com</a>&gt;, matt at
unixkaiser dot com wrote:

&gt; emusic is pretty cool. I joined based on feedback from this NG, but the
&gt; music selection is the calculation of someone who doesn't know me. I
&gt; think the organic nature of p2p made for a richer experience.

I actually have never really made much use of p2p, even though this
started with Limewire. And I have Acquisition on the mac. Mostly I
browse whatever is in the binaries sections of usenet.

--
The secret of managing is to keep the guys who hate you away from the guys who
are undecided. -- Casey Stengel

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