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#1: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-18 16:36:02 by Joey Goldstein

Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?

&lt;<a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx</a>&gt;

&lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;

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#2: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-18 17:30:36 by tomsalvojazz

Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Joey Goldstein
&gt; <a href="http://www.joeygoldstein.com" target="_blank">http://www.joeygoldstein.com</a>
&gt; joegold AT sympatico DOT ca

Joey,
I haven't seen or tried this yet - but I was a regular at the Suhr
discussion page for a while when the system came out, and it got rave
reviews. Even the guys at Tom Anderson Guitarworks seem to like it (I
think)...

T

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#3: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-18 21:41:24 by mr.lurkermeister

Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Joey Goldstein
&gt; <a href="http://www.joeygoldstein.com" target="_blank">http://www.joeygoldstein.com</a>
&gt; joegold AT sympatico DOT ca



Lots of discussion on this at thegearpage.net

The consensus seems to be that it removes the hum from your set of
single coils without impacting the tone of them at all, but is
expensive. (In addition to the back plate system, you need to get a
middle pickup that's not reverse wound reverse polarity).

Here are some threads with discussion and audio clips:

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=148828&amp;highlight=suhr+silent" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=148828&amp ;highlight=suhr+silent</a>

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=129944&amp;highlight=suhr+silent" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=129944&amp ;highlight=suhr+silent</a>

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=127071&amp;highlight=suhr+silent" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=127071&amp ;highlight=suhr+silent</a>

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=153083&amp;highlight=suhr+ssc" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=153083&amp ;highlight=suhr+ssc</a>

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=131851&amp;highlight=suhr+ssc" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=131851&amp ;highlight=suhr+ssc</a>

<a href="http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=136596&amp;highlight=suhr+ssc" target="_blank"> http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=136596&amp ;highlight=suhr+ssc</a>

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#4: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 06:14:42 by Morey Richman

&quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;

The SSC system is nothing short of amazing - there is absolutely no
difference in the quality of the single coil Strat tone with it in place but
the hum is virtually eliminated - it's even a touch quieter than full
humbuckers. I have both the full SSC system and the BPSSC (back plate
retrofit) and the full system is quite a bit better - I'd say the back plate
version eliminates 80% or so of the hum - I can also hear just a slight
difference in tone - but the full SSC system is revolutionary for Strat
single coils.

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#5: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 07:00:16 by Joey Goldstein

Morey Richman wrote:
&gt; &quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:e9irkl$u5i$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news.datemas.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;news.datemas.de...</a>
&gt;&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The SSC system is nothing short of amazing - there is absolutely no
&gt; difference in the quality of the single coil Strat tone with it in place but
&gt; the hum is virtually eliminated - it's even a touch quieter than full
&gt; humbuckers. I have both the full SSC system and the BPSSC (back plate
&gt; retrofit) and the full system is quite a bit better - I'd say the back plate
&gt; version eliminates 80% or so of the hum - I can also hear just a slight
&gt; difference in tone - but the full SSC system is revolutionary for Strat
&gt; single coils.
&gt;
&gt;

Any ideas as to how to install it on a hard-tail Strat, w/o a back plate?

The &quot;full system&quot; involves buying Suhr's pickups pre-installed on pick
guard, plus a back plate?

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#6: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 07:57:30 by Morey Richman

&quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
news:e9pn12$jvt$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news.datemas.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;news.datemas.de...</a>
&gt; Morey Richman wrote:
&gt;&gt; &quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt;&gt; news:e9irkl$u5i$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news.datemas.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;news.datemas.de...</a>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; The SSC system is nothing short of amazing - there is absolutely no
&gt;&gt; difference in the quality of the single coil Strat tone with it in place
&gt;&gt; but the hum is virtually eliminated - it's even a touch quieter than full
&gt;&gt; humbuckers. I have both the full SSC system and the BPSSC (back plate
&gt;&gt; retrofit) and the full system is quite a bit better - I'd say the back
&gt;&gt; plate version eliminates 80% or so of the hum - I can also hear just a
&gt;&gt; slight difference in tone - but the full SSC system is revolutionary for
&gt;&gt; Strat single coils.
&gt;
&gt; Any ideas as to how to install it on a hard-tail Strat, w/o a back plate?
&gt;
&gt; The &quot;full system&quot; involves buying Suhr's pickups pre-installed on pick
&gt; guard, plus a back plate?

You can't install the BPSSC without a back plate - the retro fit kit uses
the back plate for the dummy coil that is installed there.

Theoretically, the &quot;full system&quot; would involve sending a guitar back to Suhr
to have a route cut into the body around the perimeter of the pickups where
a dummy coil is installed but I believe at this point Suhr only does this
mod with his own guitars and pickups, at least for now - you have to think
that at some point it'll be available for other guitars and other single
coils like P-90s, etc. The BPSSC system (back plate) will work with any
guitar with single coil pickups but will *not* work if one of the pickups is
reverse wound.

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#7: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 13:12:22 by mr.lurkermeister

Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt; Any ideas as to how to install it on a hard-tail Strat, w/o a back plate?
&gt;


It's not possible without the backplate. (At least not as a retrofit to
non-suhr made guitars) For a hardtail you'd have to drill a hole
through the back to the control cavity and then more holes to attach
the backplate to the back of the guitar.


&gt; The &quot;full system&quot; involves buying Suhr's pickups pre-installed on pick
&gt; guard, plus a back plate?
&gt;
&gt; --

The full system is just the back plate plus ANY set of strat pickups
where all three are matching in polarity and wind. You do not have to
buy suhr's pickups or pickguard.

Also, according to Suhr, if your reverse wound reverse polarity middle
pickup is a standard fender made one, you may be able to switch it to
the required polarity by pushing the magnets out of the bobbin,
flipping them over, and putting them back in, and then wiring the
pickup with the leads reversed. So in that case all you would need to
buy would be the backplate (which runs about $260).

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#8: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 14:45:35 by Jack Zucker

Morey,

Could you post some clips demonstrating this? All I've heard were clips
of the noise itself which isn't helpful to the claim of it being the
best system out there.

Morey Richman wrote:
&gt; &quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; news:e9pn12$jvt$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news.datemas.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;news.datemas.de...</a>
&gt; &gt; Morey Richman wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; &quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
&gt; &gt;&gt; news:e9irkl$u5i$<a href="mailto:1&#64;news.datemas.de..." target="_blank">1&#64;news.datemas.de...</a>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; The SSC system is nothing short of amazing - there is absolutely no
&gt; &gt;&gt; difference in the quality of the single coil Strat tone with it in place
&gt; &gt;&gt; but the hum is virtually eliminated - it's even a touch quieter than full
&gt; &gt;&gt; humbuckers. I have both the full SSC system and the BPSSC (back plate
&gt; &gt;&gt; retrofit) and the full system is quite a bit better - I'd say the back
&gt; &gt;&gt; plate version eliminates 80% or so of the hum - I can also hear just a
&gt; &gt;&gt; slight difference in tone - but the full SSC system is revolutionary for
&gt; &gt;&gt; Strat single coils.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Any ideas as to how to install it on a hard-tail Strat, w/o a back plate?
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; The &quot;full system&quot; involves buying Suhr's pickups pre-installed on pick
&gt; &gt; guard, plus a back plate?
&gt;
&gt; You can't install the BPSSC without a back plate - the retro fit kit uses
&gt; the back plate for the dummy coil that is installed there.
&gt;
&gt; Theoretically, the &quot;full system&quot; would involve sending a guitar back to Suhr
&gt; to have a route cut into the body around the perimeter of the pickups where
&gt; a dummy coil is installed but I believe at this point Suhr only does this
&gt; mod with his own guitars and pickups, at least for now - you have to think
&gt; that at some point it'll be available for other guitars and other single
&gt; coils like P-90s, etc. The BPSSC system (back plate) will work with any
&gt; guitar with single coil pickups but will *not* work if one of the pickups is
&gt; reverse wound.

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#9: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:05:54 by mr.lurkermeister

Jack Zucker wrote:
&gt; Morey,
&gt;
&gt; Could you post some clips demonstrating this? All I've heard were clips
&gt; of the noise itself which isn't helpful to the claim of it being the
&gt; best system out there.
&gt;


Check out the first video on this page:

<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/index.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/index.html</a>

It's scott henderson demoing the noiseless system in his guitar.

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#10: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 16:29:12 by Jack Zucker

<a href="mailto:mr.lurkermeister&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.lurkermeister&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt; Jack Zucker wrote:
&gt; &gt; Morey,
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Could you post some clips demonstrating this? All I've heard were clips
&gt; &gt; of the noise itself which isn't helpful to the claim of it being the
&gt; &gt; best system out there.
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Check out the first video on this page:
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/index.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/index.html</a>
&gt;
&gt; It's scott henderson demoing the noiseless system in his guitar.

That's very cool. He gets a gorgeous tone for that fusiony thing. I
like his tone way better than what he used to get.

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#11: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:20:42 by Jonathan Giblin

I haven't heard this setup, and it seems very cool, but I think you can
get pretty close to a noiseless system by shielding the guitar really
well.

I used a $25 can of shielding paint and managed to get my Strat
surprisingly quiet. It'd probably still be slightly noisy for recording
very quiet passages with sparse instrumentation, but I don't use my
Strat for that anyway. For real-world rhythm section playing, it's
plenty quiet.

Unless getting the guitar dead quiet is an absolute must, I'd give
shielding a shot before spending 300 clams on the ultimate electronic
work-around.


Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx</a>&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;
&gt;
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&gt; joegold AT sympatico DOT ca

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#12: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:40:27 by Joey Goldstein

Jack Zucker wrote:
&gt; Morey,
&gt;
&gt; Could you post some clips demonstrating this? All I've heard were clips
&gt; of the noise itself which isn't helpful to the claim of it being the
&gt; best system out there.

Did you watch the videos of Scott Henderson?

&lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;


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#13: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:50:48 by Joey Goldstein

With any kind of high-gain amplification or compression even the best
shielded single coil harness will be intolerably noisy.
That's why guys have been wanting a 60hz-cycle-less single coil system
for so long.

Jonathan wrote:
&gt; I haven't heard this setup, and it seems very cool, but I think you can
&gt; get pretty close to a noiseless system by shielding the guitar really
&gt; well.
&gt;
&gt; I used a $25 can of shielding paint and managed to get my Strat
&gt; surprisingly quiet. It'd probably still be slightly noisy for recording
&gt; very quiet passages with sparse instrumentation, but I don't use my
&gt; Strat for that anyway. For real-world rhythm section playing, it's
&gt; plenty quiet.
&gt;
&gt; Unless getting the guitar dead quiet is an absolute must, I'd give
&gt; shielding a shot before spending 300 clams on the ultimate electronic
&gt; work-around.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt;&gt; Anybody out there have any experience with this yet?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/BPSSC-System-P1216C65.aspx</a>&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_henderson2/rc_bb.html" target="_blank"> http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/video/scott_he nderson2/rc_bb.html</a>&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; joegold AT sympatico DOT ca
&gt;


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#14: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:52:00 by Joey Goldstein

Morey Richman wrote:

&gt; You can't install the BPSSC without a back plate - the retro fit kit uses
&gt; the back plate for the dummy coil that is installed there.

He has a dummy-coil in the backplate.
Interesting.
Just one coil?


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#15: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 18:56:18 by Joey Goldstein

<a href="mailto:mr.lurkermeister&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">mr.lurkermeister&#64;gmail.com</a> wrote:
&gt; Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt;&gt; Any ideas as to how to install it on a hard-tail Strat, w/o a back plate?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; It's not possible without the backplate. (At least not as a retrofit to
&gt; non-suhr made guitars) For a hardtail you'd have to drill a hole
&gt; through the back to the control cavity and then more holes to attach
&gt; the backplate to the back of the guitar.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&gt; The &quot;full system&quot; involves buying Suhr's pickups pre-installed on pick
&gt;&gt; guard, plus a back plate?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; --
&gt;
&gt; The full system is just the back plate plus ANY set of strat pickups
&gt; where all three are matching in polarity and wind. You do not have to
&gt; buy suhr's pickups or pickguard.
&gt;
&gt; Also, according to Suhr, if your reverse wound reverse polarity middle
&gt; pickup is a standard fender made one, you may be able to switch it to
&gt; the required polarity by pushing the magnets out of the bobbin,
&gt; flipping them over, and putting them back in, and then wiring the
&gt; pickup with the leads reversed. So in that case all you would need to
&gt; buy would be the backplate (which runs about $260).
&gt;

Hmm. In my experience those middle pickups are not just reverse
polarity, they're also reverse wound. So merely flipping the magnets
wouldn't totally convert them into regular pickups.
The direction of the windings affects the hum-cancelling properties when
a RW/RP pickup is used in parallel with a regular pickup, but maybe it
doesn't affect Suhr's system from doing its thing.

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#16: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:01:32 by Jonathan Giblin

Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt; With any kind of high-gain amplification or compression even the best
&gt; shielded single coil harness will be intolerably noisy.
&gt; That's why guys have been wanting a 60hz-cycle-less single coil system
&gt; for so long.

Well ok, maybe I'm just tolerant of the intolerable.

I'm not sure just how high-gain you're talking about here, or how much
compression, but I use a fair amount of gain and compression (at
times) and find a well-shielded Strat pretty tolerable.

Like everything else, I guess it's a matter of what works for you.

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#17: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:12:41 by Jack Zucker

You're not playing at clubs with bad wiring then.

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&gt; Joey Goldstein wrote:
&gt;&gt; With any kind of high-gain amplification or compression even the best
&gt;&gt; shielded single coil harness will be intolerably noisy.
&gt;&gt; That's why guys have been wanting a 60hz-cycle-less single coil system
&gt;&gt; for so long.
&gt;
&gt; Well ok, maybe I'm just tolerant of the intolerable.
&gt;
&gt; I'm not sure just how high-gain you're talking about here, or how much
&gt; compression, but I use a fair amount of gain and compression (at
&gt; times) and find a well-shielded Strat pretty tolerable.
&gt;
&gt; Like everything else, I guess it's a matter of what works for you.
&gt;

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#18: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:13:47 by Jack Zucker

&quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; Hmm. In my experience those middle pickups are not just reverse polarity,
&gt; they're also reverse wound. So merely flipping the magnets wouldn't
&gt; totally convert them into regular pickups.
&gt; The direction of the windings affects the hum-cancelling properties when a
&gt; RW/RP pickup is used in parallel with a regular pickup, but maybe it
&gt; doesn't affect Suhr's system from doing its thing.

That's why you also reverse the leads.

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#19: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:18:19 by Joey Goldstein

Jack A. Zucker wrote:
&gt; &quot;Joey Goldstein&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nospam&#64;nowhere.net" target="_blank">nospam&#64;nowhere.net</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt;&gt; Hmm. In my experience those middle pickups are not just reverse polarity,
&gt;&gt; they're also reverse wound. So merely flipping the magnets wouldn't
&gt;&gt; totally convert them into regular pickups.
&gt;&gt; The direction of the windings affects the hum-cancelling properties when a
&gt;&gt; RW/RP pickup is used in parallel with a regular pickup, but maybe it
&gt;&gt; doesn't affect Suhr's system from doing its thing.
&gt;
&gt; That's why you also reverse the leads.
&gt;
&gt;

Ah. Right.

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#20: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 19:20:52 by Jonathan Giblin

Jack A. Zucker wrote:
&gt; You're not playing at clubs with bad wiring then.

Well ya got me there, Jack. Generally I'm not playing clubs with bad
wiring, at least not with the Strat. I'm usually playing theatres or
outdoor venues with sound guys micing the amp, so my stage volume isn't
that high either. Maybe that's part of it.

Again, it's a matter of what works for you.

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#21: Re: Suhr noiseless system

Posted on 2006-07-21 21:21:15 by Michael Tueller

&gt; He has a dummy-coil in the backplate.
&gt; Interesting.
&gt; Just one coil?

The whole sytem is documented in a patent paper (downloadable
somewhere). In addition to a coil (with much less windings than
the dummy coils on other double coil &quot;single coils&quot;) there are
a few caps and two trimpots on a small pcb, no active electronics.

I think the system was invented by Ilitch electronics and John Suhr
was the first who realized how well it works.

You can read more about the thing by searching the suhrguitars.com
forum.

Mike

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