hoping
> that one of the good people of this group could point me towards some
> easy (but well known) blues guitar solos to get me started. Any
> suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Thanks.
>
Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters
. While Chuck is a rock and roller, his solos are all blues based. Muddy
is a rather easy going solo player and they're not difficult. Some solos are slide guitar, but you
can still play them "straight" without a slide.
Also, earlier BB King solos were pretty basic stuff. Early stuff from any of the Kings and others is
not complex, but it is essential to lay a good foundation for improvised soloing, if that's what
you're after (and why wouldn't you be?).
--fletchCorn-Eel,
A good friend of mine did a blues radio show out of San Luis Obispo, CA
for many years. I used to go to the studio during his shows to hang out.
He has probably the most extensive CD and LP blues library of anyone I know.
He can tell you a story about any performer's name that you bring up and
knows who everybody played with and what for and when. He was a natural for
the jo
.net says...
> Hi.
>
> I am really just a part time fiddler with the guitar, and I was hoping
> that one of the good people of this group could point me towards some
> easy (but well known) blues guitar solos to get me started. Any
> suggestions gratefully received.
>
> Thanks.
>
>All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
only six BLooZ licks.
So there you go!
Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
colonies have managed to come up with so far.
r />
Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
Gracious to be instructional,
The lovely Kricky Babe
(One of the good people on this group) wrote:
> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
> only six BLooZ licks.
> So there you go!
> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary
standard 12 bar) and
> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>
> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>
> Gracious to be instructional,
> The lovely Kricky Babe
> (One of the good people on this group)
It may be true that there are only six 'licks' but there is an infinite
number of 'widdles'.Wow... that was absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, there are the "standard"
blues licks, but you don't have to play only those... and even if you
do, it takes a little bit of an ear for music to tastefully string them
together.
In short, you are an idiot.
wrote:
> A
ll BLooZ is insultingly simple.
> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
> only six BLooZ licks.
> So there you go!
> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>
> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>
> Gracious to be instructional,
> The lovely Kricky Babe
> (One of the good people on this group)
> wrote On 09/28/05 00:06,:
> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
I just can't accept this. Having played Blues for over thirty years, what is insulting is the idea
that blues is "simple". Yes, it can be easy to play -- that's part of the attraction -- but when you
get into what makes a g
ood blues player, and good blues music, there is a lot more that contributes
to the depth of the soulful nature of Blues as a whole.
> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
> only six BLooZ licks.
Balderdash! If you listen to Mississippi Fred McDowell, Son House, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, BB
King, Michael Bloomfield and Albert Lee, to start a list, you will clearly hear there is more to
Blues than suggested above. And there are clearly more than a mere six licks and their variants.
> So there you go!
> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>
> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
Well, those instructions are wonderfully incomplete. If you're playing a minor based blues pattern,
yes, those notes will work. But if you're playing something using dominant 7ths, ninths, and
thirteenths, for example, you're going to need to know the pentatonic major scale, the major scale
and the mixolydian scale to start sounding good in these kinds of patterns. In fact, it doesn't hurt
to know the seven fundamental modes as a good foundation to know all your choices, note wise, that
can be applied to a blues solo.
Twelve bar is a good place to start, but there are other standard forms that work. And, speaking of
the "dreary" twelve bar, clearly this guy doesn't seem to be as aware of the wealth of chord choices
you can use in a "dreary" twelve bar pattern. It is anything but dreary and boring when you explore
the depth of choices available and the "colours" alternate chords bring to the form. This also
removes the idea of the Blues being "insultingly simple".
Ten minutes... are you kidding here?
Oh, and as far as the biggest contribution to world culture, I think Jazz probably is right up
there, too, in the musical contribution department. I won't even go into medicine and physics and,
and, and...
And, as to the harmonica comments, if you listen to Sonny Boy Williamson, Paul Butterfield, John
Mayall and Magic Dick (of J. Geils Band fame), as a start, you will hear more than enough to
convince you there are many things to be learned that go way beyond "six licks".
--fletch"Fletch" wrote in message ...
>
> wrote On 09/28/05 00:06,:
>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>
>I just can't accept this. Having played Blues for over thirty years, what
is insulting is the idea
>that blues is "simple". Yes, it can be easy to
play -- that's part of the
attraction -- but when you
>get into what makes a good blues player, and good blues music, there is a
lot more that contributes
>to the depth of the soulful nature of Blues as a whole.
>
>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>> only six BLooZ licks.
>
>Balderdash! If you listen to Mississippi Fred McDowell, Son House, John Lee
Hooker, Muddy Waters, BB
>King, Michael Bloomfield and Albert Lee, to start a list, you will clearly
hear there is more to
>Blues than suggested above. And there are clearly more than a mere six
licks and their variants.
>
>> So there you go!
>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>
>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>
>Well, those instructions are wonderfully incomplete. If you're playing a
minor based blues pattern,
>yes, those notes will work. But if you're playing something using dominant
7ths, ninths, and
>thirteenths, for example, you're going to need to know the pentatonic major
scale, the major scale
>and the mixolydian scale to start sounding good in these kinds of patterns.
In fact, it doesn't hurt
>to know the seven fundamental modes as a good foundation to know all your
choices, note wise, that
>can be applied to a blues solo.
>
>Twelve bar is a good place to start, but there are other standard forms
that work. And, speaking of
>the "dreary" twelve bar, clearly this guy doesn't seem to be as aware of
the wealth of chord choices
>you can use in a "dreary" twelve bar pattern. It is anything but dreary and
boring when you explore
>the depth of choices available and the "colours" alternate chords bring to
the form. This also
>removes the idea of the Blues being "insultingly simple".
>
>Ten minutes... are you kidding here?
>
>Oh, and as far as the biggest contribution to world culture, I think Jazz
probably is right up
>there, too, in the musical contribution department. I won't even go into
medicine and physics and,
>and, and...
>
>And, as to the harmonica comments, if you listen to Sonny Boy Williamson,
Paul Butterfield, John
>Mayall and Magic Dick (of J. Geils Band fame), as a start, you will hear
more than enough to
>convince you there are many things to be learned that go way beyond "six
licks".
>
>--fletch
I hope you kick ass on guitar as well as you did above.
Cause I wanna buy your cd.
Twang!Cut excellent commentary to add...
It is stunning how many people and how many songs have been UNIQUIELY
developed over those three simple chords."Lon Smith" <> wrote in message
news:tmG_e.6459$q1.80@newsread3.news.atl.ear
thlink.net...
>
> It is stunning how many people and how many songs have been UNIQUIELY
> developed over those three simple chords.
/>
Ain't it just? All the way back to "Dark is the Night" (which was just one
chord...)...
Steve
"Fletch"-
Seldom have I read the comments of anyone (even an amerkan!) with such
a complete sense of humour failure...
Yet you display a heavy laconic irony by singing the praises of and
defending the dreadful BLooZ.
You even said you've playing it for thirty years!-very good! Very
funny!!
Are you really having a laugh?!
And by the way all tin sandwich strummers are tunel
ess gob (iron)
shites.I like the idea of BB King's earlier solos. Although not very familiar
with his work, I have liked what I have heard so far of his leads.
Could you suggest a few easy examples for me to try?
Many thanks.
Fletch wrote:
> Snowqueen wrote On 09/27/05 09:38,:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am really just a part time fiddler with the guitar, and I was hop
ing
> > that one of the good people of this group could point me towards some
> > easy (but well known) blues guitar solos to get me started. Any
> > suggestions gratefully received.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters. While Chuck is a rock and roller, his solos are all blues based. Muddy
> is a rather easy going solo player and they're not difficult. Some solos are slide guitar, but you
> can still play them "straight" without a slide.
>
> Also, earlier BB King solos were pretty basic stuff. Early stuff from any of the Kings and others is
> not complex, but it is essential to lay a good foundation for improvised soloing, if that's what
> you're after (and why wouldn't you be?).
>
> --fletchWell, the most famous solo he has: "The Thrill Is Gone"
Slow and easy. Minor pentatonic scale mostly with a few extra "colour" notes added in.
Colour notes are the notes in between the notes of a given scale (if they are not already part of
that scale).
--fletch
Snowqueen wrote On 09/29/05 09:19,:
> I like the idea of BB King's earl
ier solos. Although not very familiar
> with his work, I have liked what I have heard so far of his leads.
> Could you suggest a few easy examples for me to try?
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> Fletch wrote:
>
>>Snowqueen wrote On 09/27/05 09:38,:
>>
>>>Hi.
>>>
>>>I am really just a part time fiddler with the guitar, and I was hoping
>>>that one of the good people of this group could point me towards some
>>>easy (but well known) blues guitar solos to get me started. Any
>>>suggestions gratefully received.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>
>>Chuck Berry and Muddy Waters. While Chuck is a rock and roller, his solos are all blues based. Muddy
>>is a rather easy going solo player and they're not difficult. Some solos are slide guitar, but you
>>can still play them "straight" without a slide.
>>
>>Also, earlier BB King solos were pretty basic stuff. Early stuff from any of the Kings and others is
>>not complex, but it is essential to lay a good foundation for improvised soloing, if that's what
>>you're after (and why wouldn't you be?).
>>
>>--fletch
>
>It's always amazing when someone has barely a clue about a subject, they
represent themselves as an expert. If you think all blues is insultingly
simple, you know nothing about the blues. You probably learned a three chord
progression, proclaimed yourself an expert and moved on. As others have
pointed out, you don't have a clue about the blues.
In the future, if you don't have something to
med yourself an expert and moved on. As others have
>pointed out, you don't have a clue about the blues.
>
>In the future, if you don't have something to add to a discussion, why not
>stay silent?
Such is the nature of a troll.
Steve.
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Heb de Latz und schpill dini Gitare. | up your own guitar!The poster is obviously trooling and trying to pick a fight. That said...
The blues can be as complicated or as simple as you want it to be. If
you are an electric or slide guitarist - there are so many microtonal
"blue" notes just between the b3 and the 5th that most people cannot
even hear, much less play them. Subtle rhythmic elements are all over a
good blues player or singer'
s melodies and solos, and don't even get me
started on all the variety of tonal shadings and dynamic variations you
can put on a single note. There's a lot going on in the simplest B.B.
King solo - but some people can only gauge a solo's complexity by the
density and velocity of the notes being played (perhaps our trolling
friend is one of these).
Get some early B.B. and take your time to not just find the notes he's
playing, but get the timing down and the attack and take the time to get
your bends just like he does - that would be a good start.
Big Sammy
ccr wrote:
> It's always amazing when someone has barely a clue about a subject, they
> represent themselves as an expert. If you think all blues is insultingly
> simple, you know nothing about the blues. You probably learned a three chord
> progression, proclaimed yourself an expert and moved on. As others have
> pointed out, you don't have a clue about the blues.
>
> In the future, if you don't have something to add to a discussion, why not
> stay silent?
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:
>
>>All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>only six BLooZ licks.
>>So there you go!
>>Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>
>>Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>
>>Gracious to be instructional,
>>The lovely Kricky Babe
>>(One of the good people on this group)
>>
>
>
>Hi all,
I stumbled upon a really interesting article when I was web-surfing. You
might want to check it out.
<>
It really makes you think.
Peace,
Susan
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add to a discussion, why not
stay silent?
<> wrote in message
news:
> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
> only six BLooZ licks.
> So there you go!
> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>
> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>
> Gracious to be instructional,
> The lovely Kricky Babe
> (One of the good people on this group)
>On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 18:19:17 GMT, "ccr" <> wrote:
>It's always amazing when someone has barely a clue about a subject, they
>represent themselves as an expert. If you think all blues is insultingly
>simple, you know nothing about the blues. You probably learned a three chord
>progression, proclai
e's nothing more than a simple er single minded troll. If one
takes the time to google him they will quickly arrive at the astonishing
irony that He is, in fact, the very personification of the blues he
repetitively denigrates.
:)Hello,
Been a while since I posted here. I am on my continuing quest for live
'Moodies' items. I use to go after everything, but now I have decided
to limit myself to the following -- '67 - '74, '78 - '79 & '81. My
greatest interest lies in Mike Pinder era live Moodies, but I'm
receptive to the other years mentioned. But, there is a tragic few live
recordings featuring Mike, so those
gt; All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
> only six BLooZ licks.
> So there you go!
> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>
> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>
> Gracious to be instructional,
> The lovely Kricky Babe
> (One of the good people on this group)
>sound insultingly STooPid? yes.
"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
news:p302f.9422$
> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
> simple". make any sense? no.
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:
>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>> only six BLooZ licks.
>> So there you go!
>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>
>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>
>> Gracious to be instructional,
>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>
>
>How did this conversation get started...
"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
news:4702f.9423$
> sound insultingly STooPid? yes.
> "Jesse Kennedy" <axis.boldaslove@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:p302f.9422$
>> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>> simple". make any sense? no.
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:
>>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>> only six BLooZ licks.
>>> So there you go!
>>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>
>>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>
>>> Gracious to be instructional,
>>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>>
>>
>>
>
>It got started because people can't recognize Brit satire as per
Kricky's original response.
guitar wrote:
> How did this conversation get started...
>
> "Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
> news:4702f.9423$Tn5.7909@trnddc08...
>
>>sound insultingly STooPid? yes.
>>"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>>news:p302f.9422$
>>
>>>look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>>>simple". make any sense? no.
>>>
>>><> wrote in message
>>>news:
>>>
>>>>All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>>>And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>>>only six BLooZ licks.
>>>>So there you go!
>>>>Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>>>seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>>>you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>>>colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>>
>>>>Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>>>with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>>
>>>>Gracious to be instructional,
>>>>The lovely Kricky Babe
>>>>(One of the good people on this group)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>erm.... brit satire?
"Farmer" <> wrote in message
news:IP92f.2179$
> It got started because people can't recognize Brit satire as per Kricky's
> original response.
>
> guitar wrote
:
>> How did this conversation get started...
>>
>> "Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>> news:4702f.9423$
>>
>>>sound insultingly STooPid? yes.
>>>"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>>>news:p302f.9422$
>>>
>>>>look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>>>>simple". make any sense? no.
>>>>
>>>><> wrote in message
>>>>news:
>>>>
>>>>>All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>>>>And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>>>>only six BLooZ licks.
>>>>>So there you go!
>>>>>Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>>>>seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>>>>you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>>>>colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>>>>with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>>>
>>>>>Gracious to be instructional,
>>>>>The lovely Kricky Babe
>>>>>(One of the good people on this group)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>there are no good easy solos.Satire indeed, yet people take it seriously.
Jesse Kennedy wrote:
> erm.... brit satire?
>
> "Farmer" <> wrote in message
> news:IP92f.2179$
>
> >>It got started bec
ause people can't recognize Brit satire as per Kricky's
>>original response.
>>
>>guitar wrote:
>>
>>>How did this conversation get started...
>>>
>>>"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>>>news:4702f.9423$
>>>
>>>
>>>>sound insultingly STooPid? yes.
>>>>"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>>>>news:p302f.9422$
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>>>>>simple". make any sense? no.
>>>>>
>>>>><> wrote in message
>>>>>news:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>>>>>And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>>>>>only six BLooZ licks.
>>>>>>So there you go!
>>>>>>Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>>>>>seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>>>>>you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>>>>>colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>>>>>with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gracious to be instructional,
>>>>>>The lovely Kricky Babe
>>>>>>(One of the good people on this group)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>ok, but wasnt talking about solo's, he was
generalizing ALL blues or 'BLooZ' or whatever you all call it as simple. but
i agree, its nothing to get your feelings hurt over.
"Rick" <> wrote in messag
e
news:
> there are no good easy solos.
>The guy that plays with India Arie uses a Godin and it sounds very
cool, but I checked out the instrument in a local shop here in uk and
thought the detailing on instrument not good for the money as they are
quite pricey over here =A31000ukp + I didnt like the fret edges etcOn Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:13:53 GMT, "JOSEPH JEWELL"
<jfjewell@ve
less-than-simplistic examples. Little Walter was considered to be the
Charlie Parker of the blues harp.
--
Mike C.
Teaching:
"As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
- Jack Handey
"Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
news:p302f.9422$
> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
> simple". make any sense? no.
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:
>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>> only six BLooZ licks.
>> So there you go!
>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>
>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>
>> Gracious to be instructional,
>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>
>
>How would you say SRV's sense of timing, phrasing and expression were? How
about his depth of sincerity.
I can't see how or why it might ever matter what scales anyone uses as long
as it allows them complete expression and freedom of the soul.
--
Charlie
"Mike C." <Funkifiz
ed@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:
> Oh, puh-leeze. I love blues as much as anyone, and have no problem mixing
> it in with bebop jazz tunes on my gigs. However, using Stevie Ray Vaughan
> as a poster boy for the blues is like using Rosie Ruiz as a poster boy for
> the Boston Marathon.
>
> Stevie Ray never played anything more than the pentatonic minor scale. Try
> looking at Little Walter, Robben Ford, John Mayall, etc., for some
> less-than-simplistic examples. Little Walter was considered to be the
> Charlie Parker of the blues harp.
>
> --
> Mike C.
>
> Teaching:
>
> "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
> sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
> and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
> - Jack Handey
> "Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
> news:p302f.9422$
>> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>> simple". make any sense? no.
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:
>>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>> only six BLooZ licks.
>>> So there you go!
>>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>
>>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>
>>> Gracious to be instructional,
>>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>>
>>
>>
>
>> Stevie Ray never played anything more than the pentatonic minor scale. Try
> looking at Little Walter, Robben Ford, John Mayall, etc., for some
> less-than-simplistic examples. Little Walter was considered to be the
> Charlie Parker of the blues harp.
Or this?
Nige.
--
Nigel C Eastmond
Remove the bodily organs from my email address to replyO - kay! Mike C. slams Stevie Ray! That'll take the heat off me for that
Dylan thing.Session on African roots of banjo to be held at ASU
BOONE - A concert and mini-symposium on the African roots of the
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Activities will begin at 3:30 p.m. with a panel discussion in
Plemmons Student Union's Blue Ridge Ballroom. Swedish-scholar Ulf
>
Jagfors, folklorist Cece Conway from ASU and musicians Daniel Jatta
and James Leva wi
ing music. We could bring this down to comparing
someone who uses one note in a solo. Is it going to be as interesting as
what Stevie Ray did with 5 notes?
Robben Ford, Larry Carlton, Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, etc., don't/didn't
necessarily use much more than the blues scale in solos, but they have a lot
more taste, restraint, and timing involved in their playing, and when the
time comes for it, they can add in the extra notes to bring the solo
someplace else. I've never heard that in a Stevie Ray solo. Stevie was
admittedly good with the pentatonic/blues scale soloing, but he was over the
top with the lack of dynamics, and he used the same licks time and again. He
also shamelessly plagiarized Albert King constantly. I think he was
simplistic, as well. However, our friend from the UK seems to think that all
blues begins and ends with Stevie Ray, when the bulk of our western music
has its roots in blues. There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie
Ray. Little Walter was a friggin' genius, which most people, even blues
fans, are completely unaware of.
"Charlie" <> wrote in message
news:
> How would you say SRV's sense of timing, phrasing and expression were? How
> about his depth of sincerity.
> I can't see how or why it might ever matter what scales anyone uses as
> long as it allows them complete expression and freedom of the soul.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Charlie
>
>
> "Mike C." <> wrote in message
> news:
>> Oh, puh-leeze. I love blues as much as anyone, and have no problem mixing
>> it in with bebop jazz tunes on my gigs. However, using Stevie Ray Vaughan
>> as a poster boy for the blues is like using Rosie Ruiz as a poster boy
>> for the Boston Marathon.
>>
>> Stevie Ray never played anything more than the pentatonic minor scale.
>> Try looking at Little Walter, Robben Ford, John Mayall, etc., for some
>> less-than-simplistic examples. Little Walter was considered to be the
>> Charlie Parker of the blues harp.
>>
>> --
>> Mike C.
>>
>> Teaching:
>>
>> "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again,
>> I
>> sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of
>> honking
>> and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
>> - Jack Handey
>> "Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>> news:p302f.9422$
>>> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>>> simple". make any sense? no.
>>>
>>> <> wrote in message
>>> news:
>>>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>>> only six BLooZ licks.
>>>> So there you go!
>>>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>>
>>>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Gracious to be instructional,
>>>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>>>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>BTW, I agree with scales not mattering as long as it allows one expression
of their soul. However, totally limiting oneself of to 5 notes allows one
expression of five notes of their soul. As far as his phrasing goes, the
main thing I've heard heavyweights such as Clapton say about Stevie Ray was
that he "played and played and played, idea after idea pouring out". To me,
that sounds like
, and has always sounded like overplaying and ignoring good
phrasing. Stevie Ray's playing has always reminded me of the blues
equivalent of a blitz.
--
Mike C.
Teaching:
"As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
- Jack Handey
"Charlie" <> wrote in message
news:
> How would you say SRV's sense of timing, phrasing and expression were? How
> about his depth of sincerity.
> I can't see how or why it might ever matter what scales anyone uses as
> long as it allows them complete expression and freedom of the soul.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Charlie
>
>
> "Mike C." <> wrote in message
> news:
>> Oh, puh-leeze. I love blues as much as anyone, and have no problem mixing
>> it in with bebop jazz tunes on my gigs. However, using Stevie Ray Vaughan
>> as a poster boy for the blues is like using Rosie Ruiz as a poster boy
>> for the Boston Marathon.
>>
>> Stevie Ray never played anything more than the pentatonic minor scale.
>> Try looking at Little Walter, Robben Ford, John Mayall, etc., for some
>> less-than-simplistic examples. Little Walter was considered to be the
>> Charlie Parker of the blues harp.
>>
>> --
>> Mike C.
>>
>> Teaching:
>>
>> "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again,
>> I
>> sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of
>> honking
>> and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
>> - Jack Handey
>> "Jesse Kennedy" <> wrote in message
>> news:p302f.9422$
>>> look up stevie ray vaughan and then repeat "All BLooZ is insultingly
>>> simple". make any sense? no.
>>>
>>> <> wrote in message
>>> news:
>>>> All BLooZ is insultingly simple.
>>>> And someone admitted recently on alt.music.harmonica that there were
>>>> only six BLooZ licks.
>>>> So there you go!
>>>> Noodle away playing root, flattened third, fourth, fifth, flattened
>>>> seventh across any chords (preferably a dreary standard 12 bar) and
>>>> you've mastered the biggest contribution to world culture that the
>>>> colonies have managed to come up with so far.
>>>>
>>>> Then when you've mastered that, say ten minutes later, you can get on
>>>> with some proper music on your violin or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Gracious to be instructional,
>>>> The lovely Kricky Babe
>>>> (One of the good people on this group)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>FirstAlternate wrote:
> O - kay! Mike C. slams Stevie Ray!
Big surprise. Who gives a shit?How articulate of you FirstAlternate. It's good to see that reasoned
argument isn't dead yet.
SJS
<> wrote in message
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>
> FirstAlternate wrote:
> > O - kay! Mike C. slams Stevie Ray!
>
> Big surprise. Who gives a shit?
>Sorry, I mean Noah!
"Stephen Scott" <> wrote in message
news:
> How articulate of you FirstAlternate. It's good to see that reasoned
> argument isn't dead yet.
>
> SJS
>
> <> wrote in message
> news:
> >
> > FirstAlternate wrote:
> > > O - kay! Mike C. slams Stevie Ray!
> >
> > Big surprise. Who gives a shit?
> >
>
>>There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie Ray.
Actually very true... This guy is rated way too high IMHO.Slam SRV? What balls you guys must have. Where's your signature fender and a
legacy of incredible guitar playing? Stevie Ray Vaughn BECAME his music. I'd
venture to say he was a much more talented player than you two fucks. As for
the no dynamic comment......I'll let that pass sin
ce it's coming from a
fucktard.
"DNS" <david@si
>
> Why it might matter what scales anyone uses would be because different
> notes add different colors to a solo. One doesn't have to play overly
> complex lines, but adding some different colors and timbres to the solo
> makes for beautiful and interesting music. We could bring this down to
> comparing someone who uses one note in a solo. Is it going to be as
> interesting as what Stevie Ray did with 5 notes?
I think the issue about dynamics and expression can be veyr well illustrated
by listening to somebody like David Gilmour... the man does not normally go
for a flurry of notes but... well, just listen! what an amazing player.
Jose
--
Musha ring dum a doo dum a dah - www.mcnach.com"Bugsy" <> wrote in message
news:rMCkf.140710$
> Slam SRV? What balls you guys must have. Where's your signature fender and
> a legacy of incredible guitar playing? Stevie Ray Vaughn BECAME his music.
>
llitoe.com> wrote in message
news:BFB87497.19D23%
> >There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie Ray.
>
> Actually very true... This guy is rated way too high IMHO.
>"Mike C." <> wrote in message
news:
>I don't think he had any. Or he rarely used it. Mostly he started a solo
>balls-out, and kept it there. No sense of dynamics, no sense of restraint.
I'd venture to say he was a much more talented player than you two fucks.
> As for the no dynamic comment......I'll let that pass since it's coming
> from a fucktard.
ah, the power of persuasion... you have a way with words, eh?
"think like me, or you're a retard"
ah well, have a nice life (you can get one at the exit, first door on the
right)
Jose
--
Musha ring dum a doo dum a dah - www.mcnach.com> ah, the power of persuasion... you have a way with words, eh?
>
> "think like me, or you're a retard"
>
> ah well, have a nice life (you can get one at the exit, first door on the
> right)
Nicely put ;-)Fuck David Gilmour. He has a tin ear. lol
"Jose de las Heras" <josenet@t
iscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:
>
> "Mike C." <Funkifized
4;hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:
>>I don't think he had any. Or he rarely used it. Mostly he started a solo
>>balls-out, and kept it there. No sense of dynamics, no sense of restraint.
>>
>> Why it might matter what scales anyone uses would be because different
>> notes add different colors to a solo. One doesn't have to play overly
>> complex lines, but adding some different colors and timbres to the solo
>> makes for beautiful and interesting music. We could bring this down to
>> comparing someone who uses one note in a solo. Is it going to be as
>> interesting as what Stevie Ray did with 5 notes?
>
> I think the issue about dynamics and expression can be veyr well
> illustrated by listening to somebody like David Gilmour... the man does
> not normally go for a flurry of notes but... well, just listen! what an
> amazing player.
>
> Jose
> --
> Musha ring dum a doo dum a dah - www.mcnach.com
>
>Roger? Roger Waters is that you?!
--
"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of
fighting a foreign enemy." James Madison
"Bugsy" <> wrote in message
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rnado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Fuck David Gilmour. He has a tin ear. lol
> "Jose de las Heras" <> wrote in message
> news:
>>
>> "Mike C." <> wrote in message
>> news:
>>>I don't think he had any. Or he rarely used it. Mostly he started a solo
>>>balls-out, and kept it there. No sense of dynamics, no sense of
>>>restraint.
>>>
>>> Why it might matter what scales anyone uses would be because different
>>> notes add different colors to a solo. One doesn't have to play overly
>>> complex lines, but adding some different colors and timbres to the solo
>>> makes for beautiful and interesting music. We could bring this down to
>>> comparing someone who uses one note in a solo. Is it going to be as
>>> interesting as what Stevie Ray did with 5 notes?
>>
>> I think the issue about dynamics and expression can be veyr well
>> illustrated by listening to somebody like David Gilmour... the man does
>> not normally go for a flurry of notes but... well, just listen! what an
>> amazing player.
>>
>> Jose
>> --
>> Musha ring dum a doo dum a dah - www.mcnach.com
>>
>>
>
>"ccr" <> writes:
> "Bugsy" <> wrote in message
> news:b8Lkf.140798$
> > Fuck David Gilmour. He has a tin ear
. lol
>
> Roger? Roger Waters is that you?!
Now, *that's* laugh-out-loud funny.
Note to "Bugsy" -- laughing out loud at your own "jokes" makes you
look like a nutter.Something interesting to discuss with qnyone who might be.Hi Why_Me_Of_CourseWell if there are any attorneys practicing law and they are Moodies fans,
then Tortleson is so nailed because he's using his Sears network computer
to continue to harass people he thinks are here! My my to spend your days
and nights hassling others for fun your parents must be very proud? His
cyber stalking finally is going to get h
c.uk...
> "ccr" <> writes:
>
>> "Bugsy" <> wrote in message
>> news:b8Lkf.140798$
>> > Fuck David Gilmour. He has a tin ear. lol
>>
>> Roger? Roger Waters is that you?!
>
> Now, *that's* laugh-out-loud funny.
>
> Note to "Bugsy" -- laughing out loud at your own "jokes" makes you
> look like a nutter."Stephen Scott" <> wrote in message
news:
> Sorry, I mean Noah!
>
> "Stephen Scott" <
> wrote in message
> news:
>> How articulate of you FirstAlternate. It's good to see that reasoned
>> argument isn't dead yet.
>>
>> SJS
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news:
>> >
>> > FirstAlternate wrote:
>> > > O - kay! Mike C. slams Stevie Ray!
>> >
>> > Big surprise. Who gives a shit?
That's generally because you're talking to a guy that has no intellectual
skills and even less musical knowledge. Check out his out-of-tune,
I'm-having-a-bitch-of-a-time-keeping-up-with-this-click-trac k,
maybe-if-I-drench-my-playing-with-chorus-and-reverb-I-can-be -thought-of-as-David-Gilmour
noodling out there on the web. Dreadful.
--
Mike C.
Teaching:
"As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
- Jack HandeyBugsy wrote:
> It was sarcasm dummy.
Which is the lowest form of wit!"Bugsy" <> wrote in message
news:rMCkf.140710$
> Slam SRV? What balls you guys must have. Where's your signature fender and
> a legacy of incredible guitar playing? Stevie Ray Vaughn BECAME his music.
>
I'd venture to say he was a much more talented player than you two fucks.
> As for the no dynamic comment......I'll let that pass since it's coming
> from a fucktard.
> "DNS" <> wrote in message
> news:BFB87497.19D23%
>> >There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie Ray.
and SRV is the very last poster boy for the instrument of blues, there are
no other guitar gods here today and if they were, where the hell are their
posters? I've been from shanghai to frankfurt and the only blues player
poster I've seen were BB King and..........believe it or not STEVIE RAY
VAUGHN accomplishment made . He did for the blues society than any other
blues man, the jealousy of the some people who are sooooo SRVphobic should
just basicly shut the hell up..............even BB King admitted that the
only one who has brought the blues into the world was SRV and coming from
the king is better than any of these assholes who keep knocking SRV down,
but that's OK they're all homo's.........
>>
>> Actually very true... This guy is rated way too high IMHO.
>>
>
>"Kuhinomoku" <> wrote in message
news:NkPlf.1513$
<snip>
Oh, FFS. I consider myself a blues guitarist. I love all kinds of people
(SRV, Robben Ford, Blind Willy Johnson, Peter Green, Lar
ry Carlton, the 3
Kings, etc etc). I can't BELIEVE you guys are arguing (and calling each
other schoolyard names) over who's cool and who isn't. I could understand it
if you were a bunch of teenage girls arguing over the newest boy bands, but
you're not. If you know anything about the blues, you'd know it's
non-competitive. There's room for everybody. And if you know anything about
usenet, you'd know that flamefests are BORING.
FFS, grow up and/or shut up.
Steve
> wrote in message
news:
| "Kuhinomoku" <> wrote in message
|
news:NkPlf.1513$
| <snip>
|
| Oh, FFS. I consider myself a blues guitarist. I love all kinds of people
| (SRV, Robben Ford, Blind Willy Johnson, Peter Green, Larry Carlton, the 3
| Kings, etc etc). I can't BELIEVE you guys are arguing (and calling each
| other schoolyard names) over who's cool and who isn't. I could understand
it
| if you were a bunch of teenage girls arguing over the newest boy bands,
but
| you're not. If you know anything about the blues, you'd know it's
| non-competitive. There's room for everybody. And if you know anything
about
| usenet, you'd know that flamefests are BORING.
|
| FFS, grow up and/or shut up.
|
| Steve
|
Well said Steve. My thoughts exactly.
Ian"Kuhinomoku" <> wrote in message
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>
> "Bugsy" <> wrote in message
> news:rMCkf.140710$
ef="mailto:Hs.82093@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com..." target="_blank">Hs.82093@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> Slam SRV? What balls you guys must have. Where's your signature fender
>> and a legacy of incredible guitar playing? Stevie Ray Vaughn BECAME his
>> music. I'd venture to say he was a much more talented player than you two
>> fucks. As for the no dynamic comment......I'll let that pass since it's
>> coming from a fucktard.
>> "DNS" <> wrote in message
>> news:BFB87497.19D23%
>>> >There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie Ray.
>
> and SRV is the very last poster boy for the instrument of blues, there are
> no other guitar gods here today and if they were, where the hell are their
> posters? I've been from shanghai to frankfurt and the only blues player
> poster I've seen were BB King and..........believe it or not STEVIE RAY
> VAUGHN accomplishment made . He did for the blues society than any other
> blues man, the jealousy of the some people who are sooooo SRVphobic should
> just basicly shut the hell up..............even BB King admitted that the
> only one who has brought the blues into the world was SRV and coming from
> the king is better than any of these assholes who keep knocking SRV down,
> but that's OK they're all homo's.........
>
>
>>>
>>> Actually very true... This guy is rated way too high IMHO.
Nothing to be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into blues
far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a little more
and check out Robben Ford, dude.
"SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Phobia it's not. He just wasn't that good
a player. He wasn't bad, but he just wasn't the epitome of the blues, not by
a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks, pretty much like Gary
Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar player that wants to
learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back to Albert King, B.B.
King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass white boy that spews out
his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix licks. All flash, no feel.
--
Mike C.
Teaching:
"As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
- Jack Handey>Any guitar player that wants to learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff,
back to Albert King, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc.
And further back than that, too... Way back infact.Mike C. wrote:
>
>
> Nothing to be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into blues
> far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a little more
/>
> and check out Robben Ford, dude.
>
> "SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Phobia it's not. He just wasn't that good
> a player. He wasn't bad, but he just w
asn't the epitome of the blues, not by
> a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks, pretty much like Gary
> Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar player that wants to
> learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back to Albert King, B.B.
> King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass white boy that spews out
> his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix licks. All flash, no feel.
>
Is there anything you like about SRV?
Have you heard Jonny Lang?
--
Stephen
Lennox Head, AustraliaThat is so true. It is sad to see folks declaring that BB King, Buddy Guy,
etc are the "way backs" or "fathers of the blues". Nothing could be farther
from the truth.
Actually and truly going back to the roots of the blues (without sojourning
to the African continent) like Robert Plant does yearly one finds himself
listening to:
1. work songs
2. prison gang
hollers and choruses
3. field hollers
4. drum and fife
5. gospel
6. minstrel songs
7. jug bands
--
Charlie
"DNS" <> wrote in message
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> >Any guitar player that wants to learn blues needs to go back to the real
> >stuff,
> back to Albert King, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc.
>
> And further back than that, too... Way back infact.
>"Rick Massey" <> wrote in message
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>I mentioned the Present when I made my post. It is a muchly forgotten
>album, but I love tunes on it like Blue World and Driftwood.
&
> news:NkPlf.1513$
> <snip>
>
> Oh, FFS. I consider myself a blues guitarist. I love all kinds of people
> (SRV, Robben Ford, Blind Willy Johnson, Peter Green, Larry Carlton, the 3
> Kings, etc etc). I can't BELIEVE you guys are arguing (and calling each
> other schoolyard names) over who's cool and who isn't. I could understand
> it if you were a bunch of teenage girls arguing over the newest boy bands,
> but you're not. If you know anything about the blues, you'd know it's
> non-competitive. There's room for everybody. And if you know anything
> about usenet, you'd know that flamefests are BORING.
OOO Flame fest ( say it with a lisp 5x please)
>
> FFS, grow up and/or shut up.
>
> Steve
>
>"Mike C." <> wrote in message
news:
> "Kuhinomoku" <> wrote in message
/>
> news:NkPlf.1513$
>>
>> "Bugsy" <> wrote in message
>> news:rMCkf.140710$
>>> Slam SRV? What balls you guys must have. Where's your signature fender
>>> and a legacy of incredible guitar playing? Stevie Ray Vaughn BECAME his
>>> music. I'd venture to say he was a much more talented player than you
>>> two fucks. As for the no dynamic comment......I'll let that pass since
>>> it's coming from a fucktard.
>>> "DNS" <> wrote in message
>>> news:BFB87497.19D23%
>>>> >There's far more out there for the blues than Stevie Ray.
>>
>> and SRV is the very last poster boy for the instrument of blues, there
>> are no other guitar gods here today and if they were, where the hell are
>> their posters? I've been from shanghai to frankfurt and the only blues
>> player poster I've seen were BB King and..........believe it or not
>> STEVIE RAY VAUGHN accomplishment made . He did for the blues society than
>> any other blues man, the jealousy of the some people who are sooooo
>> SRVphobic should just basicly shut the hell up..............even BB King
>> admitted that the only one who has brought the blues into the world was
>> SRV and coming from the king is better than any of these assholes who
>> keep knocking SRV down, but that's OK they're all homo's.........
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually very true... This guy is rated way too high IMHO.
>
> Nothing to be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into
> blues far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a little
> more and check out Robben Ford, dude.
>
> "SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Phobia it's not. He just wasn't that
> good a player. He wasn't bad, but he just wasn't the epitome of the blues,
> not by a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks, pretty much
> like Gary Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar player that
> wants to learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back to Albert
> King, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass white boy that
> spews out his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix licks. All flash, no
> feel.
You are definately numb, the field of guitar genious yes Robben Ford saw his
show excellent, albert king great!!!! but universally world reknown STEVIE
RAY VAUGHN!!!
everybody say yea!!!!!!! YEA!!!!
hide the pick baby you won't win hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>
> --
> Mike C.
>
> Teaching:
>
> "As the light changed from red to green to yellow and back to red again, I
> sat there thinking about life. Was it nothing more than a bunch of honking
> and yelling? Sometimes it seemed that way."
> - Jack Handey
>"Mike C." <> wrote
> Nothing to be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into
blues
> far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a little more
> and check out Robben Ford, dude.
>
So how many grammys do you have?
> &
quot;SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Phobia it's not. He just wasn't that
good
> a player. He wasn't bad, but he just wasn't the epitome of the blues, not
by
> a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks, pretty much like
Gary
> Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar player that wants to
> learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back to Albert King, B.B.
> King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass white boy that spews out
> his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix licks. All flash, no feel.
>
Seems to me that Albert King thought more highly of SRV than you think
of Albert King. After all, Albert made an album with the jive-ass white
boy. Did he make one with you?
Patrick"Nate" <> wrote in message
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> Hey Blues lovers what are your cd recommendations of Cds released from
> year 2000 onwards. I'm looking to in
You sure spend a lot of time ragging on other players, Mike.<> wrote in message
news:
>
> Mike C. wrote:
>
>> That's generally because you're talking to a guy that has no intellectual
>
> skills and even less musical knowledge. Check out his out-of-tune,
>> I'm-having-a-bitch-of-a-time-keeping-up-with-this-click-trac k,
>> maybe-if-I-drench-my-playing-with-chorus-and-reverb-I-can-be -thought-of-as-David-Gilmour
>> noodling out there on the web. Dreadful.
>>
>
> You sure spend a lot of time ragging on other players, Mike.
I'll second that. Why spend so much energy criticising? You're coming across
as very closed-minded and bitter, and I'm sure that's not the case.
Steve
Steve at fivetrees wrote:
> <> wrote in message
> news:
> >
> > Mike C. wrote:
> >
> >> That's generally becaus
e you're talking to a guy that has no intellectual
> >> skills and even less musical knowledge. Check out his out-of-tune,
> >> I'm-having-a-bitch-of-a-time-keeping-up-with-this-click-trac k,
> >> maybe-if-I-drench-my-playing-with-chorus-and-reverb-I-can-be -thought-of-as-David-Gilmour
> >> noodling out there on the web. Dreadful.
> >>
> >
> > You sure spend a lot of time ragging on other players, Mike.
>
> I'll second that. Why spend so much energy criticising? You're coming across
> as very closed-minded and bitter, and I'm sure that's not the case.
I'm not; he's a total prick. I don't know where you are posting from,
but in alt.guitar.beginner this guy seems only to be able to talk about
how "professional" he is and rag on other people either directly, as he
did above, or indirectly with incredibly generalistic statements about
what makes a "real" musician (basically only those people just like him
as far as I can tell). You would think such a self described
proffessional musician and instructor would have better things to do
with his time than come into a support newsgroup for beginners and say
things like the above to people but I guess not. I _guess_ it must
make him feel better about himself and I just can't fathom that.
Hense my original post to this crossposted flamefest. Personally I
can't stand him or anyone like him. What he thinks about SRV should be
no skin off of anyone's back - as far as I'm concerned his opinion
don't mean a damn. SRV was a good player that put a lot of soul and
spirit into his work; what more can be rightfully asked of anyone??!!
There was only one SRV and there will never be another. There are
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of assholes.
So fuck Mike, his nonsense, and his utterly irrelivant opinions."Stephen Calder" <> wrote in message
news:43983ff3$0$491$
> Mike C. wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> Nothing t
o be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into
>> blues far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a
>> little more and check out Robben Ford, dude.
>>
>> "SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Phobia it's not. He just wasn't that
>> good a player. He wasn't bad, but he just wasn't the epitome of the
>> blues, not by a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks,
>> pretty much like Gary Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar
>> player that wants to learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back
>> to Albert King, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass
>> white boy that spews out his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix
>> licks. All flash, no feel.
>>
>
> Is there anything you like about SRV?
>
> Have you heard Jonny Lang?
He Sucks!!!
>
>
> --
> Stephen
> Lennox Head, AustraliaMike C. wrote:
> I also try to not crosspost if I can.
No, Mr. High and Mighty...you only MULTIPOST. That is ohhh so much
better of you. It is so wonderful of you to serve as such a great
example to the rest of us retards.
Hehehe...idiot! Read and learn:
/>
Lecture me on netiquette ... look to your own self buddy. If you are
going to be a netiquette nazi, at least get things right!Regarding SRV, "Mike C." <> wrote:
> Nothing to be jealous of. I can play all of his licks, and I was into
> blues far before he came on the scene. You need to open your ears a little
> more and check out Robben Ford, dude.
>
> "SRVphobic". There's a cute word. Ph
obia it's not. He just wasn't that
> good a player. He wasn't bad, but he just wasn't the epitome of the blues,
> not by a long shot. He was a rock player playing blues licks, pretty much
> like Gary Moore. Nothing new to be learned there. Any guitar player that
> wants to learn blues needs to go back to the real stuff, back to Albert
> King, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, etc., rather than some jive-ass white boy that
> spews out his copies of Albert King and Jimi Hendrix licks. All flash, no
> feel.
>
> --
> Mike C.
>
A couple of questions, Mike:
- approx when did you get "into the blues"?
- On your website, where and when were the photos taken of you and
Dickey Betts and you with LesPaul?
Just curious.....If you enjoyed the live William Clarke: Live in Germany, you might be
interested in knowing that Jeanette Clarke-Lodvici will release another
compilation of Bill's material the mid-part of next year.
Apparently, as story goes, he recorded much more material than he
released when alive. He had everything rebaked and he gave it to her
just before he died, asking that he "not be forgotten.&q