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#1: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 15:23:46 by Riz

Can the group please give me some insight into the differences between a
floating and routed in pickup on an archtop, i.e. advantages disadvantages
of each? Thanks!

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#2: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 15:32:53 by ottguit

The Floater is very close to the strings, limiting your ablity to
adjust height for Balance etc.. I belive they feed back easier as well,
and get a slighly more acoustic type sound, rather than the Fatter
electric type sound of Wes, Farlow , Burrell..
The floating pickup sounds would be the Pizzarelli's, Johnny Smith,
even George Benson.

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#3: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 16:00:22 by Jimmy Bruno

Floating pickups are fine for playing in your living room. They are prone
to feedback. They do give more of the wood sound of the guitar. If the
guitar is not that great to start with a floating pick up will make it worst
especially when you have to turn up to performance volume. Might as well
just get a built in.
If you like to play accoustic, don't use a pick up at all
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&gt; Can the group please give me some insight into the differences between a
&gt; floating and routed in pickup on an archtop, i.e. advantages disadvantages
&gt; of each? Thanks!
&gt;
&gt;

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#4: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 16:16:41 by windcrest

I play both and find that each have their strengths and weaknesses.
For blues or pop I prefer the routed pickup. However for chord-melody
arrangements and fingerstyle the floater gives much better clarity,
note definition, and sensitivity especially with chords that use the
lower strings. The style of music also lends itself to one or the
other, for example I generally play blues on the routed, bossa-novas on
the floater, etc.

Feedback on the floater can occur, but I use a separate head/speaker so
I can keep the head under my chair and the speaker 20 feet away, but
even with a combo amp feedback has not been a major issue for me. The
floater definity sounds more acoustic, I tend to use that guitar more.

Height adjustment on the floater will be fixed if the floater is neck
mounted. If the floater is guard mounted then it is adjustable because
the pick guard is usually mounted on a spring with an adjusting screw.
Mine is neck mounted and the height is good, I actually prefer the neck
mounted floater because it can be positioned closer to string center.
Both have pole pieces to adjust height too.

I generally dont use the bridge pickups on either guitar, and found
that the routed pickup guitar is less forgiving about where you are
picking the string, pick too close to the bridge and it will sound
nasal (twangy). With the floater I can pick the string anywhere and
the sound is not as varied, ie. it stays fuller no matter where you
pick. With the routed guitar I make sure I am picking just behind the
neck pickup for best sound.

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#5: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 19:04:51 by charles robinson

One exception to the floating pickup/feedback syndrome is the Ibanez GB-10 .
I've never had any. What I do miss is the adjustability of the routed
pickup. For solo guitar I like to lower the bass side as much as possible,
to do this on the GB-10 I had to unsolder the pickup from the cover and let
it droop. I keep a matchbook cover underneath to raise it back (not the
world's greatest arrangement).

Charlie
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&gt; Can the group please give me some insight into the differences between a
&gt; floating and routed in pickup on an archtop, i.e. advantages disadvantages
&gt; of each? Thanks!
&gt;
&gt;

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#6: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-06 19:38:28 by bob r

in article <a href="mailto:YvmdndYuENypklHfRVn-vA&#64;comcast.com" target="_blank">YvmdndYuENypklHfRVn-vA&#64;comcast.com</a>, charles robinson at
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&gt; One exception to the floating pickup/feedback syndrome is the Ibanez GB-10 .
&gt; I've never had any.

I'm not having any feedback problems with my Eastman (16&quot; body, floating
p/u), either, and that's at big-band volume levels. Using an RE cabinet
probably helps, too; they seem to be fairly directional. As long as I don't
point the speaker directly at the guitar, there's no feedback.
--
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#7: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-07 02:54:29 by geordie

You may like to try the Heritage HRW's which split the differnence; not
routed in, not floating. They sit on 4 little feet mounted to the top. I
think it gives the best of both types of sounds.

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Guitar Instructor /Jazz Improvisation Instructor
Navy School of Music
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&gt; Can the group please give me some insight into the differences between a
&gt; floating and routed in pickup on an archtop, i.e. advantages disadvantages
&gt; of each? Thanks!
&gt;
&gt;

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#8: Re: floating vs. routed pickup?

Posted on 2005-07-07 03:48:39 by Greg clayton

I agree[based on experience] with Jimmy all the way. My floating pu guitars
don't cut it on live gigs though I love playing them at home.
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&gt; Floating pickups are fine for playing in your living room. They are prone
&gt; to feedback. They do give more of the wood sound of the guitar. If the
&gt; guitar is not that great to start with a floating pick up will make it
&gt; worst especially when you have to turn up to performance volume. Might as
&gt; well just get a built in.
&gt; If you like to play accoustic, don't use a pick up at all
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&gt;&gt; Can the group please give me some insight into the differences between a
&gt;&gt; floating and routed in pickup on an archtop, i.e. advantages
&gt;&gt; disadvantages
&gt;&gt; of each? Thanks!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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