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#1: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 02:38:28 by Tim

what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff? or
is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.

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#2: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 02:42:33 by webmaster

Pato's Crew taught me that in the UK, the ratio is about 30% herb to 70%
tobacco: I taught them that in California we use the ratio of 100% herb to
0% tobacco. A few reggae artists have expressed the same ratio is true for
them, yet some Jamaicans use 70% herb to 30% tobacco. I guess it's all
relative.....

:o)

-s

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&gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff?
&gt; or is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt;

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#3: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 16:35:57 by Guillaume Bougard

The less tobacco, the better, as tobacco alters the vibe provided by pot.

However, I don't know how the Amercians or some Jamaicans are able to smoke
their pot with no grabba or tobacco.

I've seen several artists mix in a significant dose of grabba (spelling?)

GB




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&gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff?
&gt; or is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt;

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#4: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 16:55:00 by XYTMENT

Bless since 20 Years de I a smoke WITHOUT tabacco
Tabacco mek mi not sic kit mek mi nearly die - so mi alergic
And mi thank JAH
co mi nah like de blendin
so mi smoke pure pipe or small water pipe
since 2 Year mi also roll spliff withOUT poison
it is possible - dem not as large as a Joint
For mi as an Austrian I see it like:
JOINT is a joint between Weed and Tabacco
SPLIFF is ital and mi tell U iff it nah light in a de middle of smokin,
meanin when de Fire goes out
so Jah say mek a break and keep fe later
mi seen lotz a Kingstonians roll Bush pure ever
and act so......

If U blend it U must know U dont life ital, as long U nah cultivate Ure own
Tabacco
at home, same as de Sess..

Bless

BABYLON CYANT SAY NOTTN CO LIFE FREE FE DO SO





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&gt; The less tobacco, the better, as tobacco alters the vibe provided by pot.
&gt;
&gt; However, I don't know how the Amercians or some Jamaicans are able to
smoke
&gt; their pot with no grabba or tobacco.
&gt;
&gt; I've seen several artists mix in a significant dose of grabba (spelling?)
&gt;
&gt; GB
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
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&gt; &gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff?
&gt; &gt; or is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#5: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 19:30:07 by CC

&gt; For mi as an Austrian I see it like:

'Ow come u type like u just stepped off the boat mush? (typed in
cockney/east london accent-even though I'm a northener ;-) )





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&gt; Bless since 20 Years de I a smoke WITHOUT tabacco
&gt; Tabacco mek mi not sic kit mek mi nearly die - so mi alergic
&gt; And mi thank JAH
&gt; co mi nah like de blendin
&gt; so mi smoke pure pipe or small water pipe
&gt; since 2 Year mi also roll spliff withOUT poison
&gt; it is possible - dem not as large as a Joint
&gt; For mi as an Austrian I see it like:
&gt; JOINT is a joint between Weed and Tabacco
&gt; SPLIFF is ital and mi tell U iff it nah light in a de middle of smokin,
&gt; meanin when de Fire goes out
&gt; so Jah say mek a break and keep fe later
&gt; mi seen lotz a Kingstonians roll Bush pure ever
&gt; and act so......
&gt;
&gt; If U blend it U must know U dont life ital, as long U nah cultivate Ure
&gt; own
&gt; Tabacco
&gt; at home, same as de Sess..
&gt;
&gt; Bless
&gt;
&gt; BABYLON CYANT SAY NOTTN CO LIFE FREE FE DO SO
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
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&gt;&gt; The less tobacco, the better, as tobacco alters the vibe provided by pot.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; However, I don't know how the Amercians or some Jamaicans are able to
&gt; smoke
&gt;&gt; their pot with no grabba or tobacco.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I've seen several artists mix in a significant dose of grabba (spelling?)
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; GB
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
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&gt;&gt; &gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style
&gt;&gt; &gt; spliff?
&gt;&gt; &gt; or is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt;&gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;


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#6: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-21 23:16:11 by phattoria

peace&amp;bless!
to me it has to be ital: 100% weed.
you can still vary the strenght by mixing some leaves to the flowers.
sometimes i add some fresh mint leaves for the taste.
sometimes i dip the spliff in honey before burning it...
most jamaicans i know (mostly kingstonians) smoke pure weed.
some add a little piece of sigar.
some build their spliff in a large (sigar) tobacco leaf (a blunt as it
is called in the us).
stay away from industrial (chemical) tobacco and be moderate with the
weed (as with anything else).
guidance&amp;light...

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#7: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-22 01:21:51 by Sisirie

From the standpoint of health as well as those who do not want to be hooked by a
Babylonian system whose only priority is increased sales, I do not really
understand why anyone would mix their herb with any commerically grown tobacco.
I work for the American Cancer Society. Here is what our documents say:

&quot;Cigarettes kill more Americans than alcohol, car accidents, suicide, AIDS,
homicide, and illegal drugs combined. Cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless and pipe
tobacco consist of dried tobacco leaves, as well as ingredients added for flavor
and other properties. More than 4,000 individual compounds have been
identified in tobacco and tobacco smoke. Among these are more than 60 compounds
that are known carcinogens (cancer-causing agents).

There are hundreds of substances added by manufacturers to cigarettes to enhance
the flavor or to make the smoking experience more pleasant.&quot;

Whether to smoke tobacco or not is truly an individual decision but I just
wanted to put some of the known facts out for those who may not have seen them
before. I talk to lung cancer patients everyday. Sadly, lung cancer is the
leading cancer for both men and women in the US. It is also the most
preventable. Unfortunately, most people do not realize they have it until it is
in a late stage making it harder to stop and the treatment is nearly as bad as
the cancer itself.

Smoking herb is not foolproof either but at least it should not have all the
added ingredients unless you roll with tobacco. You may spread your stash out
further and save a little money, but if one unfortunately does get cancer, the
cost for treatment is phenomenal in addition to the chance of losing one's life.
Sadly, any smoke inhaled into the lungs has the potential of damaging the DNA of
the linings in the lungs, mouth, esophagus and is absorbed by other organs in
the body. After several mutations, those cells can become cancerous, as well. I
believe in an individual's choice whether to smoke or not and I am not posting
with the intent of changing anyone's mind. Just posting some of the facts I have
become way to familiar with through my work. bless one and all, sis irie




musa wrote:
&gt;
&gt; peace&amp;bless!
&gt; to me it has to be ital: 100% weed.
&gt; you can still vary the strenght by mixing some leaves to the flowers.
&gt; sometimes i add some fresh mint leaves for the taste.
&gt; sometimes i dip the spliff in honey before burning it...
&gt; most jamaicans i know (mostly kingstonians) smoke pure weed.
&gt; some add a little piece of sigar.
&gt; some build their spliff in a large (sigar) tobacco leaf (a blunt as it
&gt; is called in the us).
&gt; stay away from industrial (chemical) tobacco and be moderate with the
&gt; weed (as with anything else).
&gt; guidance&amp;light...

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#8: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-22 06:33:56 by jabergmann

Greetings

Occasionaly, every nine months or so, I indulge in a tobacco smoke, if it is
the american spirit brand, which is natural. I do notice the effects of
tobacco, when I do not use it for as long as I do. I say a prayer and offer my
smoke...trying to keep it sacred. Tobacco tastes good when done in moderation.

&quot;Yes tobacco is a powerful spirit...look how many people it is smoking!&quot;
-Mexican Indian shaman

Blessings
Jeff

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#9: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-22 08:04:35 by gunpontooth

in JA, I sometimes enjoyed a little grabba for flavor (the harsh
stuff)... usually a dash of Craven A did the trick too.. didn't alter
the herb, just burns nicely...

one Idren to a spliff - so it goes in yard, each to their own.

- yoni

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#10: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-22 11:13:51 by Jesse I

tobacco like kindling... just enough to help the sensi burn...

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#11: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 01:01:35 by jah bill

0% tobacco does it for me.

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&gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff?
or
&gt; is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt;
&gt;

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#12: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 01:04:50 by jah bill

good sensi dont need the help.

but i agree more and more about the one spliff per person thing.

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&gt; tobacco like kindling... just enough to help the sensi burn...
&gt;
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#13: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 16:47:33 by caribreizh

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&gt;I do not really
&gt;understand why anyone would mix their herb with any commerically grown
&gt;tobacco.

basically bcs they can't afford to buy (or grow) herb for cheap in the area
where they live. if they manage to get good stuff, then they will have to save
it and mix it w/ tobacco. not everyone lives in an area where such things are
easy to get, i suppose.

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#14: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 17:32:15 by XYTMENT

to CC
well I love fe talk patois
and as I was 17 - 25 mi often go London as a Music Photographer
but mi main Labbrisch is Deutsch but mi nah like it so much
Mi English is bad and mi need a freshup ina de Vokabular
So mi need a Yardie Gyal fe rome in an learn

to Jah Bill - true mi nah wa fe share Spliff
If someone want, mi gi him an say roll Ure own
sometime there are drunk or greedy People whe come and say mek mi smoke
but dat a no behaivor

So de one man Spliff is a normal ting in JA
If U wa fe share U gi him a ready build Spliff and both sit and smoke
but this is intimate
member de flim we Burnin Spear gi a Spliff to him friend at de sea...
was it Countryman.....mi nah know...
Bless


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&gt; 0% tobacco does it for me.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; one love
&gt; rasta 4 I
&gt; jah bill
&gt;
&gt;
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&gt; &gt; what is the normal ratio of herb to tobacco for a jamaican style spliff?
&gt; or
&gt; &gt; is that not really done much? i have always been curious. thanks.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;

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#15: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 20:28:28 by gypsydread

In some instances it is more of a tradition, as well as a means of control, to
use a tobacco mixture. At one farm high in the hills of St. Elizabeth, the men
there chopped up the vilest tobacco I ever tasted to mix with their herb, and
to say they had herb aplenty is to minimize the extent of the crop, most of it
unallocated.

&quot;Dub Is a Weapon&quot;

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#16: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-23 21:58:47 by Tim

i wondered if it was used to cover up an illegal activity, but I guess the
unmistakable scent of herb would overpower any tobacco. still, it couldn't
hurt.
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&gt; écrit :
&gt;
&gt;&gt;I do not really
&gt;&gt;understand why anyone would mix their herb with any commerically grown
&gt;&gt;tobacco.
&gt;
&gt; basically bcs they can't afford to buy (or grow) herb for cheap in the
&gt; area
&gt; where they live. if they manage to get good stuff, then they will have to
&gt; save
&gt; it and mix it w/ tobacco. not everyone lives in an area where such things
&gt; are
&gt; easy to get, i suppose.

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#17: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-24 06:35:11 by Gofauq Yousef

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&gt; good sensi dont need the help.

Naw so it go...more time the nice green sinsi naw wa bunn good...likkle
piece a fronto level tings an mek it bun smooth...nice blen is an art man...
&gt;
&gt; but i agree more and more about the one spliff per person thing.

Dat now...

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&gt;
&gt;
&gt; one love
&gt; rasta 4 I
&gt; jah bill
&gt;
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&gt; &gt; tobacco like kindling... just enough to help the sensi burn...
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; --
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#18: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-24 14:54:31 by Redlocks

In the early 1980s I witnessed several non-reggae bands from England
rolling spliffs which were probably 70% herb and 30% tobacco. When
I inquired as to why tobacco was added some told me it was so the herb
burned more smoothly. Others told me it made the spliff burn longer,
thus allowing more people to share a limited amount of ganja. Over time I
began to speculate that it was the latter, since among people who I met from
Europe hashish seemed to be more plentiful than marijuana.

Redlocks

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#19: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-25 20:01:59 by Sisirie

I truly understand. However, it burns me that commerical tobacco companies
purposely add hundreds of chemicals to tobacco to hook people so they can make
more money. Many of the people who smoke herb do not usually want to participate
in something that fuels the capitalistic gains of corporate America. The
additives are known carcinogens. Now that tobacco companies are meeting so much
resistence in the USA, they are taking their media campaigns to countries like
Nigeria and other developing countries and targeting their media towards the
youth, showing elegant black families in fancy cars, etc. smoking cigarettes.
They even grow tobacco in some of these countries where there are fewer laws
concerning pesticides and fertilizers. What are those people going to do when
they come down with lung cancer? Can they afford treatment, is anyone going to
help them? And to segue with that question is another..will the people of
America be able to afford treatment? Many cutting edge treatments for cancer are
not approved by insurance plans and most of us are not aware of that. Treatments
can totally devastate a person not to mention they are mostly a form of
poisoning the good cells along with the bad in order to slow down and hopefully
cure (?) in rare cases. My husband is an elder Rasta and knowing how ital he
lives and how much he despises capitalistic systems that kill it's people for
profits, I doubt he could ever add tobacco to his stash again. The cost saved by
rolling it with herb will be more than made up for thousand times over if
someone gets cancer. The sad thing, as lovely as herb is, all smoke is risky.
Although some more than others. My personal preference is to eat it. I am not
posting this to get people to stop smoking per se, I am just outraged at the
tobacco industry and cannot imagine why anyone who loves the messages of rasta
reggae music would perpetuate the tobacco companies profits.

Happy Thanks Living, everyone!

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&gt;
&gt; &gt;I do not really
&gt; &gt;understand why anyone would mix their herb with any commerically grown
&gt; &gt;tobacco.
&gt;
&gt; basically bcs they can't afford to buy (or grow) herb for cheap in the area
&gt; where they live. if they manage to get good stuff, then they will have to save
&gt; it and mix it w/ tobacco. not everyone lives in an area where such things are
&gt; easy to get, i suppose.

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Posted on 2004-11-26 12:56:56 by caribreizh

Dans l'article &lt;<a href="mailto:41A62C26.1759C8C4&#64;io.com" target="_blank">41A62C26.1759C8C4&#64;io.com</a>&gt;, Beverly Shaw &lt;<a href="mailto:sisirie&#64;io.com" target="_blank">sisirie&#64;io.com</a>&gt;a écrit
:

&gt;I am just outraged at the
&gt;tobacco industry and cannot imagine why anyone who loves the messages of
&gt;rasta
&gt;reggae music would perpetuate the tobacco companies profits.

i am outraged at it just the same, i just happen to know many people who
can't/don't try to grow their own grass.they are not just all rasta and/or
reggae fans.
they don't see it the way you mention it - as much as i agree with you - they
cut it bcs it is expensive and they just can't afford to fill the local
dealer's pockets either, who may not be that nice a character either.
they don't generally know who they bought it from either.as someone else said
herb is much more uncommon than ash in europe, so ends up being more expensive.
as for me, i don't buy, so...

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#21: Re: blend of herb and tobacco for a spliff

Posted on 2004-11-26 16:10:22 by Sisirie

All good points. I did not mean to offend anyone except maybe RJ Reynolds. ha.
Thanks for the discussion. Sis Irie (hopefully the herb people buy does not have
chemicals, pesticides, or other sprays on it either. Unfortunately, I was
smoking herb the most back in the days of Paraquat. After we stopped using it
here, it was given or sold to Mexico and there was no way of knowing how much of
their fields had been sprayed.) I haven't heard the word Paraquat in many years
so hopefully that is a thing of the past all over the world.

Caribreizh wrote:
&gt;
&gt; Dans l'article &lt;<a href="mailto:41A62C26.1759C8C4&#64;io.com" target="_blank">41A62C26.1759C8C4&#64;io.com</a>&gt;, Beverly Shaw &lt;<a href="mailto:sisirie&#64;io.com" target="_blank">sisirie&#64;io.com</a>&gt;a écrit
&gt; :
&gt;
&gt; &gt;I am just outraged at the
&gt; &gt;tobacco industry and cannot imagine why anyone who loves the messages of
&gt; &gt;rasta
&gt; &gt;reggae music would perpetuate the tobacco companies profits.
&gt;
&gt; i am outraged at it just the same, i just happen to know many people who
&gt; can't/don't try to grow their own grass.they are not just all rasta and/or
&gt; reggae fans.
&gt; they don't see it the way you mention it - as much as i agree with you - they
&gt; cut it bcs it is expensive and they just can't afford to fill the local
&gt; dealer's pockets either, who may not be that nice a character either.
&gt; they don't generally know who they bought it from either.as someone else said
&gt; herb is much more uncommon than ash in europe, so ends up being more expensive.
&gt; as for me, i don't buy, so...

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