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#1: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 06:05:18 by solitude439

Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?

Thanks In Advance!

Monty

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#2: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 06:14:38 by kitekrazy

Montgomery BOO...URNS wrote:
> Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
> artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?
>
> Thanks In Advance!
>
> Monty

Did you google it? 12,500,000 for Ambient Jazz.

There are so many genres today with no set definitions to accurately
classify them.

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#3: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 06:59:31 by ottguit

Montgomery BOO...URNS wrote:
> Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
> artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?
>
> Thanks In Advance!
>
> Monty

In elevators:)
Bg

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#4: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 14:38:20 by Dan Adler

Montgomery BOO...URNS wrote:
> Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
> artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?
>

I don't know what the formal definition is, but I would call any CD
that creates and maintains a certain mood "ambient", which to me means
you can put it on for the mood, for background music OR for intense
listening. There was a great article in Jazz Improv by Kenny Werner
about this. I think all of the Pat Metheny albums fall into that
category, as well as most Brazilian music, and all great jazz albums
that I love have that feature to them.

You could randomly listen to a snippet of any track from Joe Pass "For
Django" and it has the same vibe. The same with "Intercontinental".
Another great example is "Paul Desmond Live" - every song has the same
overall feel even though they are all different, Pat Martino's "We'll
Be Together Again", and of course "kind of blue" and all of Miles
albums have that feature.

So, I think my answer is that ALL great jazz albums are ambient, and
those that mix too many moods and vibes are unlikely to be played that
often.

-Dan
<a href="http://danadler.com" target="_blank">http://danadler.com</a>

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#5: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 14:59:19 by Tom Walls

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1153312700.303335.27290&#64;75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153312700.303335.27290&#64;75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:dan&#64;danadler.com" target="_blank">dan&#64;danadler.com</a> says...
&gt; Montgomery BOO...URNS wrote:
&gt; &gt; Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
&gt; &gt; artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt; I don't know what the formal definition is, but I would call any CD
&gt; that creates and maintains a certain mood &quot;ambient&quot;, which to me means
&gt; you can put it on for the mood, for background music OR for intense
&gt; listening. There was a great article in Jazz Improv by Kenny Werner
&gt; about this. I think all of the Pat Metheny albums fall into that
&gt; category, as well as most Brazilian music, and all great jazz albums
&gt; that I love have that feature to them.
&gt;
&gt; You could randomly listen to a snippet of any track from Joe Pass &quot;For
&gt; Django&quot; and it has the same vibe. The same with &quot;Intercontinental&quot;.
&gt; Another great example is &quot;Paul Desmond Live&quot; - every song has the same
&gt; overall feel even though they are all different, Pat Martino's &quot;We'll
&gt; Be Together Again&quot;, and of course &quot;kind of blue&quot; and all of Miles
&gt; albums have that feature.
&gt;
&gt; So, I think my answer is that ALL great jazz albums are ambient, and
&gt; those that mix too many moods and vibes are unlikely to be played that
&gt; often.
&gt;
&gt; -Dan
&gt; <a href="http://danadler.com" target="_blank">http://danadler.com</a>
&gt;
&gt;
Do you feel that way about Bird's music? I think that Bird and the
majority of bebop makes terrible background music. Of course, for the
most part this music was not made with the album concept in mind. My
question is then: would you exclude bebop from your list of &quot;great jazz
albums&quot; or do you find them good background music?
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus

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#6: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 15:14:10 by Starcaster

&quot;Ambient&quot; is a term used to describe sub-genres in several areas of
music. There is Ambient Electronica, Ambient Alternative, etc. So why
not Ambient Jazz.

It doesn't mean &quot;elevator&quot; music. It refers to music with space,
subtlety of texture, and often slower tempos (called &quot;downtempo&quot; in
electronica terms). There is no implication that it's for brain dead
people or that it's fluff. It's simply mellow and evocative. It's
also just plain cool (I'm a fan).

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#7: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:02:55 by Dan Adler

tom walls wrote:
&gt; Do you feel that way about Bird's music? I think that Bird and the
&gt; majority of bebop makes terrible background music. Of course, for the
&gt; most part this music was not made with the album concept in mind.

Tom,

Of course some of the compilations and live recordings are a mishmash,
but the &quot;official&quot; Bird/Diz albums and Bird/Miles all have that great
consistent quality at least to my ears. There's also this quartet album
that I mentioned once and is absolutely the most consistent Bird album
sound and mood wise:

<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000069NB/102-9463903-0492932?v=glance&amp;n=5174" target="_blank"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000069NB/102-9463903-0492 932?v=glance&amp;n=5174</a>

-Dan
<a href="http://danadler.com" target="_blank">http://danadler.com</a>

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#8: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:08:28 by ottguit

Starcaster wrote:
&gt; &quot;Ambient&quot; is a term used to describe sub-genres in several areas of
&gt; music. There is Ambient Electronica, Ambient Alternative, etc. So why
&gt; not Ambient Jazz.
&gt;
&gt; It doesn't mean &quot;elevator&quot; music. It refers to music with space,
&gt; subtlety of texture, and often slower tempos (called &quot;downtempo&quot; in
&gt; electronica terms). There is no implication that it's for brain dead
&gt; people or that it's fluff. It's simply mellow and evocative. It's
&gt; also just plain cool (I'm a fan).

To me the word &quot;ambient&quot; means part of the background, surroundings,
environment etc.
Bg

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#9: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:31:22 by Tom Walls

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1153317775.452264.163630&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1153317775.452264.163630&#64;s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:dan&#64;danadler.com" target="_blank">dan&#64;danadler.com</a> says...
&gt; tom walls wrote:
&gt; &gt; Do you feel that way about Bird's music? I think that Bird and the
&gt; &gt; majority of bebop makes terrible background music. Of course, for the
&gt; &gt; most part this music was not made with the album concept in mind.
&gt;
&gt; Tom,
&gt;
&gt; Of course some of the compilations and live recordings are a mishmash,
&gt; but the &quot;official&quot; Bird/Diz albums and Bird/Miles all have that great
&gt; consistent quality at least to my ears. There's also this quartet album
&gt; that I mentioned once and is absolutely the most consistent Bird album
&gt; sound and mood wise:
&gt;
&gt; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000069NB/102-9463903-0492932?v=glance&amp;n=5174" target="_blank"> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000069NB/102-9463903-0492 932?v=glance&amp;n=5174</a>
&gt;
&gt; -Dan
&gt; <a href="http://danadler.com" target="_blank">http://danadler.com</a>
&gt;
&gt;
Just listened to nearly a minute of &quot;Now's the Time&quot; and I've got to
agree that's about the cleanest recording I've ever heard of Bird.
Sounds great. I've got the Savoys, Dials, and Verves and this is better
sonically. Of course, I'm not listening to it in the background. I don't
know if I'm capable of &quot;backgrounding&quot; Bird. Now I've listened to &quot;I
Remember You&quot; and I've placed my order. Thanks.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus

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#10: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 16:48:09 by Starcaster

&gt; To me the word &quot;ambient&quot; means part of the background, surroundings,
&gt; environment etc.

Not really. Here are some definitions from Dictionary.com. The word
&quot;surrounding' is used but here it is an active term implying that
something ambient &quot;takes you in&quot; and &quot;embraces you.&quot; That is different
from the passive sense of &quot;the objects that are physically around you.&quot;

adj.
Surrounding; encircling.

Function: adjective
: surrounding on all sides &lt;the ambient environment&gt; &lt;ambient air
pollution&gt;

adj : completely enveloping; &quot;the ambient air&quot;; &quot;ambient sound&quot;; &quot;the
ambient temperature&quot;

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#11: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 17:17:34 by bornfeldmung

<a href="mailto:ottguit&#64;hotmail.com" target="_blank">ottguit&#64;hotmail.com</a> wrote:

&gt; Montgomery BOO...URNS wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Is there a such thing as Ambient Jazz? If so, does anyone know any such
&gt;&gt;artists or who and where I can find more material and info about them?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Thanks In Advance!
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;Monty
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; In elevators:)
&gt; Bg
&gt;

Thank you for not calling it &quot;dentist-office music&quot;.

Steve

--
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718-258-5001

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#12: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-19 21:19:15 by El Kabong

&quot;Starcaster&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:fullcity&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">fullcity&#64;yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote in message
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&gt; &quot;Ambient&quot; is a term used to describe sub-genres in several areas of
&gt; music....... It's simply mellow and evocative. It's
&gt; also just plain cool (I'm a fan).
&gt;

I'm a fan, too. People accuse me of playing ambient music.


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#13: Re: Ambient Jazz???

Posted on 2006-07-20 04:07:02 by Michael

&quot;Montgomery BOO...URNS&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:solitude439&#64;rcn.com" target="_blank">solitude439&#64;rcn.com</a>&gt; wrote in message &gt;
&gt; Monty

Monty Montgomery...from Austin Texas?

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