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#1: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 01:49:01 by tysteel3000

<a href="mailto:clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com</a> wrote:
&gt; A sad day for rock music fans.
&gt;
&gt; Syd was probably the biggest tragedy in rock and roll.

Wasn't Syd's health and mental problems problem self inflicted through
excessive drug use? I would tend to ascribe the something like
&quot;biggest tragedy in rock 'n' roll&quot; to someone truly great who sadly way
taken ahead of his time in a circumstance beyond his control; think of
all the great performers who died in plane crashes or other acts of
god. I think what happened to Syd was, in a sad way, simply a matter
of reaping and sowing. There were certainly bigger tragedies in rock
'n' roll when a great performer was taken way ahead of his time and it
was totally unforseen.

But at least I'll give Syd credit on another thing, besides jump
starting one of rock's greatest bands, at least he didn't have a piece
of shit like Brian Kelleher working for him as a publicist...like
Patrick Moraz does. LOL

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#2: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 02:25:40 by AC

On 12 Jul 2006 16:49:01 -0700,
<a href="mailto:tysteel3000&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">tysteel3000&#64;aol.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:tysteel3000&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">tysteel3000&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt; <a href="mailto:clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com</a> wrote:
&gt;&gt; A sad day for rock music fans.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Syd was probably the biggest tragedy in rock and roll.
&gt;
&gt; Wasn't Syd's health and mental problems problem self inflicted through
&gt; excessive drug use? I would tend to ascribe the something like
&gt; &quot;biggest tragedy in rock 'n' roll&quot; to someone truly great who sadly way
&gt; taken ahead of his time in a circumstance beyond his control; think of
&gt; all the great performers who died in plane crashes or other acts of
&gt; god. I think what happened to Syd was, in a sad way, simply a matter
&gt; of reaping and sowing. There were certainly bigger tragedies in rock
&gt; 'n' roll when a great performer was taken way ahead of his time and it
&gt; was totally unforseen.

I think it was a tragedy. These guys were young and inexperienced. I doubt
very much that Syd knew what awaited him with the drugs he was taking. I
think it's a sad, tragic end to what was a brilliant career. I feel the same
way about Janis Joplin and Richard Manuel. Especially in Manuel's case, it
was a suicide, but years of mental illness had lead to it. Their deaths
were no less tragic.

As with other deaths of this kind, you always wonder what he would have done.
Part of me wonders whether he was just destined to make a few great records,
or whether or not he might have truly gone on to become on of the pantheon
of truly great rock artists.


&gt;
&gt; But at least I'll give Syd credit on another thing, besides jump
&gt; starting one of rock's greatest bands, at least he didn't have a piece
&gt; of shit like Brian Kelleher working for him as a publicist...like
&gt; Patrick Moraz does. LOL

I think the fact that he found his way out of his illness, at least to some
extent, so that he could go on to have a life beyond it is to his credit.

--
Aaron Clausen
<a href="mailto:mightymartianca&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">mightymartianca&#64;gmail.com</a>

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#3: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 03:24:36 by missmoodyblues

Very sad news indeed.

AC wrote:
&gt; On 12 Jul 2006 16:49:01 -0700,
&gt; <a href="mailto:tysteel3000&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">tysteel3000&#64;aol.com</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:tysteel3000&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">tysteel3000&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; <a href="mailto:clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com</a> wrote:
&gt; &gt;&gt; A sad day for rock music fans.
&gt; &gt;&gt;
&gt; &gt;&gt; Syd was probably the biggest tragedy in rock and roll.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Wasn't Syd's health and mental problems problem self inflicted through
&gt; &gt; excessive drug use? I would tend to ascribe the something like
&gt; &gt; &quot;biggest tragedy in rock 'n' roll&quot; to someone truly great who sadly way
&gt; &gt; taken ahead of his time in a circumstance beyond his control; think of
&gt; &gt; all the great performers who died in plane crashes or other acts of
&gt; &gt; god. I think what happened to Syd was, in a sad way, simply a matter
&gt; &gt; of reaping and sowing. There were certainly bigger tragedies in rock
&gt; &gt; 'n' roll when a great performer was taken way ahead of his time and it
&gt; &gt; was totally unforseen.
&gt;
&gt; I think it was a tragedy. These guys were young and inexperienced. I doubt
&gt; very much that Syd knew what awaited him with the drugs he was taking. I
&gt; think it's a sad, tragic end to what was a brilliant career. I feel the same
&gt; way about Janis Joplin and Richard Manuel. Especially in Manuel's case, it
&gt; was a suicide, but years of mental illness had lead to it. Their deaths
&gt; were no less tragic.
&gt;
&gt; As with other deaths of this kind, you always wonder what he would have done.
&gt; Part of me wonders whether he was just destined to make a few great records,
&gt; or whether or not he might have truly gone on to become on of the pantheon
&gt; of truly great rock artists.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; But at least I'll give Syd credit on another thing, besides jump
&gt; &gt; starting one of rock's greatest bands, at least he didn't have a piece
&gt; &gt; of shit like Brian Kelleher working for him as a publicist...like
&gt; &gt; Patrick Moraz does. LOL
&gt;
&gt; I think the fact that he found his way out of his illness, at least to some
&gt; extent, so that he could go on to have a life beyond it is to his credit.
&gt;
&gt; --
&gt; Aaron Clausen
&gt; <a href="mailto:mightymartianca&#64;gmail.com" target="_blank">mightymartianca&#64;gmail.com</a>

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#4: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 05:33:14 by Rick Massey

Clinical research has proven that hallucinogens, contrary to popular myth,
do not create mental insanity. However, they will exacerbate problems for
schitzophrenic and schitzoid personality types. These people should not take
hallucinogens.

Sid was one of these types. Anothe one is Roky Erickson, of the psychedelic
band the 13th Floor Elevators. (They coined the term Psychedlic Rock)

sid is gone. Roky seems to be getting better. Thank the gods for small
miracles.

Though Sid was a bit more functional later in life, he dropped music when he
got sick and never picked it up It is a loss.
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&gt;
&gt; <a href="mailto:clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">clueidiota&#64;yahoo.com</a> wrote:
&gt;&gt; A sad day for rock music fans.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Syd was probably the biggest tragedy in rock and roll.
&gt;
&gt; Wasn't Syd's health and mental problems problem self inflicted through
&gt; excessive drug use? I would tend to ascribe the something like
&gt; &quot;biggest tragedy in rock 'n' roll&quot; to someone truly great who sadly way
&gt; taken ahead of his time in a circumstance beyond his control; think of
&gt; all the great performers who died in plane crashes or other acts of
&gt; god. I think what happened to Syd was, in a sad way, simply a matter
&gt; of reaping and sowing. There were certainly bigger tragedies in rock
&gt; 'n' roll when a great performer was taken way ahead of his time and it
&gt; was totally unforseen.
&gt;
&gt; But at least I'll give Syd credit on another thing, besides jump
&gt; starting one of rock's greatest bands, at least he didn't have a piece
&gt; of shit like Brian Kelleher working for him as a publicist...like
&gt; Patrick Moraz does. LOL
&gt;

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#5: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 05:43:29 by unknown

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#6: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 15:32:10 by Rick Massey

Their stuff is available on CD. Well worth checking out if you like
psychedelic music. They have a member who plays electric jug, which adds a
different sound in the mix.

There is also a really good tribute album to Roky Erickson, called Where the
Pyramid Meets the Eye.
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&gt; X-No-archive: yes
&gt;
&gt; &quot;Rick Massey&quot; &lt;is Roky Erickson, of the psychedelic band the 13th Floor
&gt; Elevators. (They coined the term Psychedlic Rock)&gt;
&gt;
&gt; In spite of the fact that I grew up buying tons of LPs and reading
&gt; magazines, and books about rock, it never fails to amaze me at how much
&gt; happened in the 1960s/1970s; and how much of it has been lost to history.
&gt;
&gt; Who is Roky, and what about the 13th floor?
&gt;
&gt;

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#7: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 17:06:42 by singformoi

Why is this on the Moody Blues newsgroup?

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#8: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 17:55:12 by Bassplayer12

&gt; Why is this on the Moody Blues newsgroup?

Mmmm, dunno, unless people who like the Moody Blues also like other rock &amp;
roll artists and like to talk about them.

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#9: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-13 19:45:32 by Otaku

On 13 Jul 2006 08:06:42 -0700, &quot;<a href="mailto:singformoi&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">singformoi&#64;aol.com</a>&quot;
&lt;<a href="mailto:singformoi&#64;aol.com" target="_blank">singformoi&#64;aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:

&gt;Why is this on the Moody Blues newsgroup?

Newsgroups:
alt.music.pink-floyd,alt.music.yes,alt.music.led-zeppelin,al t.music.moody-blues

This is the header.... seems to be a little cross-posting going on.

o.

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#10: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-14 01:24:34 by Rufus Leaking

Rick Massey wrote:
&gt; Clinical research has proven that hallucinogens, contrary to popular myth,
&gt; do not create mental insanity. However, they will exacerbate problems for
&gt; schitzophrenic and schitzoid personality types.

There was a recent clinical study of the psychotropic element in
psylocibin (sp?) mushroom, one of the few that was done under very
controlled circumstances. Very interesting results in that many of
those tested found the experience to be one of the high points (no pun
intended) of their lives....

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#11: Re: Syd dies at 60.

Posted on 2006-07-14 06:32:41 by Rick Massey

I did a report back in college for an English class about the case for a
return to clinical experimentation for hallucinogens. My best source was a
book called Licit and Illicit Drugs, by none other than Consumer Reports. It
was amazingly balanced and fair about the topic.

It's worth checking out.
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&gt;
&gt; Rick Massey wrote:
&gt;&gt; Clinical research has proven that hallucinogens, contrary to popular
&gt;&gt; myth,
&gt;&gt; do not create mental insanity. However, they will exacerbate problems for
&gt;&gt; schitzophrenic and schitzoid personality types.
&gt;
&gt; There was a recent clinical study of the psychotropic element in
&gt; psylocibin (sp?) mushroom, one of the few that was done under very
&gt; controlled circumstances. Very interesting results in that many of
&gt; those tested found the experience to be one of the high points (no pun
&gt; intended) of their lives....
&gt;

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