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#1: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-07 21:24:30 by oasysco

.... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.

Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
chord punches with each key change?

I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
the transitions from F>A>C. There's a big orchestral part in the
middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
than one would expect.

How do you do this tune (if you do it)?

Thanks,
greg

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#2: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-07 22:19:12 by gitman

have you checked out the George Benson version with the Basie Bigband ?
really fine and you can pick up some nice ideas from it ! i really like
the tune but so far have only done it with a singer, not as an
instrumental.... but i'll look into it ! hope this helps a bit !
Christian

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#3: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-07 22:42:59 by tombrown

oasysco wrote:
> ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
> the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
>
> Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
> chord punches with each key change?
>
> I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
> the transitions from F>A>C. There's a big orchestral part in the
> middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
> to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
> for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
> than one would expect.

Bobby Darrin is a good singer, but what I love on that version is the
drummer. He totally makes that track happen. Whoever he was, the cat
was on fire that day. He's cooking so hard that I don't even listen to
the singer.

I have a feeling it was Irv Kotler, but it's just a hunch. I heard a
story about Darrin coming in the studio and trying to tell Kotler how
to play. Irv got real pissed off and cursed mightily at Bobby,
basically saying that he would play the drums his own way. I always
wonder if this is that session. It sure sounds like the drummer is
trying to drive the groove right up Darrin's ass. And he succeeds at
doing so.

> How do you do this tune (if you do it)?

I don't do it because I only play solo anymore, and there's not enough
harmony to bite into on this song for a solo guitarist. But Rick Del
Savio recorded a nice duo version on his New York Minutes album.

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#4: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-07 22:48:51 by KevinW

oasysco wrote:
And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
> for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
> than one would expect.
>

Nothing is impossible or difficult, only unfamiliar.

A mantra given to me by a teacher and it has served me well.

Greg, spend a lot of time with that vocal. Transcribe it on the guitar.
If it's as good as you describe you got a free lesson in jazz phrasing.

My 2,

KevinW

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#5: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 00:51:54 by oasysco

Tom,
I have RDS' NY Minutes CD; I'll check that out.
Thanks,
Greg

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#6: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 01:17:11 by windcrest

oasysco wrote:
> ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
> the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
>
> Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
> chord punches with each key change?
>
> I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
> the transitions from F>A>C. There's a big orchestral part in the
> middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
> to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
> for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
> than one would expect.
>
> How do you do this tune (if you do it)?
>
> Thanks,
> greg

The George Benson version is one of my favorite non-analytical
just-for-fun things to listen to. I threw a 40th surprise party for my
wife a few years ago and the theme of the evening was that version of
that tune, I rented a dance hall, played a lot of fox trots, invited a
ot of "ringer" dancers to get everyone involved, and a grand time was
had by all. It's a great tune, not done enough, IMHO. I'd do it with
a sparse harmony, and lot of swing, because it's such a strong catchy
melody, smaller chord forms to add rhythmic support giving lesser
priority to lush harmony at least from the guitar part.

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#7: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 03:06:14 by Bill Ribas

Bireli has a version - i can send that to you if you'd like . . .

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&gt; ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
&gt; the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
&gt;
&gt; Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
&gt; chord punches with each key change?
&gt;
&gt; I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
&gt; the transitions from F&gt;A&gt;C. There's a big orchestral part in the
&gt; middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
&gt; to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
&gt; for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
&gt; than one would expect.
&gt;
&gt; How do you do this tune (if you do it)?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; greg
&gt;

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#8: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 07:04:55 by TMC

Check out the version Roger Kellaway recently released on his CD
&quot;Remembering Bobby Darin&quot; . (Roger was Bobby's musical director). It's
a trio version with Roger on piano, a bass player whose name I can't
recall, and Bruce Forman, an outstanding jazz guitar player. Some
beautiful playing on this cd.
Tom

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#9: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 12:46:07 by oasysco

Bill,

&gt;Bireli has a version - i can send that to you if you'd like .

Thanks!

Greg - oasysco at cox dot net

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#10: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 14:16:28 by Bill Ribas

on it's way - let me know what you think. . .

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&gt; Bill,
&gt;
&gt;&gt;Bireli has a version - i can send that to you if you'd like .
&gt;
&gt; Thanks!
&gt;
&gt; Greg - oasysco at cox dot net
&gt;

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#11: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 14:16:52 by Tom Walls

In article &lt;<a href="mailto:1147029870.069865.63000&#64;v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com" target="_blank">1147029870.069865.63000&#64;v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com</a>&gt;,
<a href="mailto:wilderkommen&#64;yahoo.com" target="_blank">wilderkommen&#64;yahoo.com</a> says...
&gt; ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
&gt; the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
&gt;
&gt; Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
&gt; chord punches with each key change?
&gt;
&gt; I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
&gt; the transitions from F&gt;A&gt;C. There's a big orchestral part in the
&gt; middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
&gt; to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
&gt; for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
&gt; than one would expect.
&gt;
&gt; How do you do this tune (if you do it)?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; greg
&gt;
&gt;
Check out Django's version.
--
Tom Walls
the guy at the Temple of Zeus

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#12: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-08 22:12:02 by zIP

I enjoy this tune for several reasons: 12 and 6 bar phrases, three keys
visited, &quot;2&quot; feel or walk, upbeat crowd pleaser... it's also one of the
few titles from The Vocal Real Book that can be used on a gig for
someone who needs a chart --that book is full of errors, but Beyond the
Sea seems accurate to Darin's version.

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#13: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-09 01:49:20 by Joe Finn

Check out Benson's version. .......joe

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&gt; ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
&gt; the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
&gt;
&gt; Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
&gt; chord punches with each key change?
&gt;
&gt; I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
&gt; the transitions from F&gt;A&gt;C. There's a big orchestral part in the
&gt; middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
&gt; to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
&gt; for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
&gt; than one would expect.
&gt;
&gt; How do you do this tune (if you do it)?
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; greg
&gt;



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#14: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-09 20:41:38 by bornfeldmung

TMC wrote:

&gt; Check out the version Roger Kellaway recently released on his CD
&gt; &quot;Remembering Bobby Darin&quot; . (Roger was Bobby's musical director). It's
&gt; a trio version with Roger on piano, a bass player whose name I can't
&gt; recall, and Bruce Forman, an outstanding jazz guitar player. Some
&gt; beautiful playing on this cd.
&gt; Tom
&gt;

Thanks for reminding me--I need to get that album.
Once woke up on my clock radio to &quot;Beyond The Sea&quot; from that CD--it was
lovely.

Steve

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#15: Re: Somewhere beyond the sea - anybody playing this one?

Posted on 2006-05-09 22:01:58 by Tony at Pizza Hut

I was messing with it a couple weeks ago. It's a little strange in the form
department. Also kind of a strange one for NNS.

Didn't quite get it up to the point where I thought it was ready to perform
though.




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&gt;
&gt; oasysco wrote:
&gt;&gt; ... referring to the Bobby Darrin tune as redone by Robbie Williams for
&gt;&gt; the Disney movie, Finding Nemo.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Anybody doing it as a duo/trio deal? If so, do you liberally throw in
&gt;&gt; chord punches with each key change?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; I've got the basic chords down, the melody and little chord punches for
&gt;&gt; the transitions from F&gt;A&gt;C. There's a big orchestral part in the
&gt;&gt; middle, plus the strings throughout the tune form the 2nd verse on, not
&gt;&gt; to mention the horns. And mimicking the singer's voice is impossible
&gt;&gt; for me; he slides into notes just at the right time and sometimes later
&gt;&gt; than one would expect.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; How do you do this tune (if you do it)?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt; Thanks,
&gt;&gt; greg
&gt;
&gt; The George Benson version is one of my favorite non-analytical
&gt; just-for-fun things to listen to. I threw a 40th surprise party for my
&gt; wife a few years ago and the theme of the evening was that version of
&gt; that tune, I rented a dance hall, played a lot of fox trots, invited a
&gt; ot of &quot;ringer&quot; dancers to get everyone involved, and a grand time was
&gt; had by all. It's a great tune, not done enough, IMHO. I'd do it with
&gt; a sparse harmony, and lot of swing, because it's such a strong catchy
&gt; melody, smaller chord forms to add rhythmic support giving lesser
&gt; priority to lush harmony at least from the guitar part.
&gt;

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