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#1: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-28 21:13:40 by mlsmailguard-gugul

Does anyone know of a more affordable alternative to the Gibson
Byrdland - something with the 23 1/2 inch scale? It doesn't necessarily
need to be thin bodied, just short scaled (not 24.75-25.5) and hollow.

Thanks,
Max S.

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#2: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-28 21:20:52 by Pat Smith

<a href="http://www.epiphone.com/elitist/byrdland.htm" target="_blank">http://www.epiphone.com/elitist/byrdland.htm</a>

Max S. wrote:
&gt; Does anyone know of a more affordable alternative to the Gibson
&gt; Byrdland - something with the 23 1/2 inch scale? It doesn't necessarily
&gt; need to be thin bodied, just short scaled (not 24.75-25.5) and hollow.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Max S.
&gt;

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#3: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-28 21:28:25 by gtrmon

Max S. wrote:
&gt; Does anyone know of a more affordable alternative to the Gibson
&gt; Byrdland - something with the 23 1/2 inch scale? It doesn't necessarily
&gt; need to be thin bodied, just short scaled (not 24.75-25.5) and hollow.
&gt;
&gt; Thanks,
&gt; Max S.

Hey Max, mebbe you could put one o them thinline kent armstrongs on a
baby taylor or something of that nature... the ES-140 had a 22.5&quot;
string length... check out their other 3/4 size guitars for the same...
prolly other brand 3/4 sizers are like that but that's the one I've
seen... pretty nice guitar fer a cheapy, don't know what collectors
have done to the price these days

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#4: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-28 21:35:14 by gtrmon

<a href="http://www.cmstransport.com.au/guitarsplus/guitar.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.cmstransport.com.au/guitarsplus/guitar.cfm</a>
<a href="http://www.cmstransport.com.au/guitarsplus/GuitarView.cfm?Guitarid=470" target="_blank"> http://www.cmstransport.com.au/guitarsplus/GuitarView.cfm?Gu itarid=470</a>

beware... &quot;they&quot; are out there

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#5: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-28 22:19:34 by dunlop212

ES-350T 1955-1963 is the plain version of the byrdland. Not cheap
though; the ones with PAFs are 5 figures. I would rather have this one:


<a href="http://www.blues.ru/bluesmen/Chuck_Berry/Berry.gif" target="_blank">http://www.blues.ru/bluesmen/Chuck_Berry/Berry.gif</a>

see also
<a href="http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/WarrenAllen/scale_lengths.htm" target="_blank"> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/WarrenAllen/scale_l engths.htm</a>

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#6: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 01:53:08 by ottguit

How about Fender Mustangs and the like.?
bg

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#7: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 02:35:08 by tombrown

I've never understood the attraction of these hollow thinlines. You get
the feedback of an archtop, but you lose much of the acoustic qualities
that makes it worthwhile to put up with.

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#8: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 04:03:52 by jimbol51

Comfort of a thinner instrument as well as the feeling of the hollowbody
against your innards. Jim
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&gt; I've never understood the attraction of these hollow thinlines. You get
&gt; the feedback of an archtop, but you lose much of the acoustic qualities
&gt; that makes it worthwhile to put up with.
&gt;

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#9: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 04:50:47 by Vince

Many of the thin hollow bodies are about the same size as a 175 in thickness
2.5 in vs. 2.75 in.- I doubt that is terribly significant in terms of
acoustic qualities.

But, amplified it's just thick enough to put some wood in the tone, and more
comfortable to play.


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&gt; I've never understood the attraction of these hollow thinlines. You get
&gt; the feedback of an archtop, but you lose much of the acoustic qualities
&gt; that makes it worthwhile to put up with.
&gt;

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#10: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 06:05:20 by Dave M

&gt; 23 1/2 inch scale?

How's that for tuning/intonation? The shorter ya go, the
worse it gets, right?

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#11: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 12:40:34 by Vince

I'm not sure. I have a Thin body Golden Eagle which is like a Byrdland with
a long scale or an L-5 with a thin body.


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&gt;&gt; 23 1/2 inch scale?
&gt;
&gt; How's that for tuning/intonation? The shorter ya go, the worse it gets,
&gt; right?

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#12: Re: Alternative to the Byrdland (short scale hollowbody)

Posted on 2006-03-29 14:15:51 by dannynikon1

<a href="mailto:tombrown&#64;jhu.edu" target="_blank">tombrown&#64;jhu.edu</a> wrote:
&gt; I've never understood the attraction of these hollow thinlines. You get
&gt; the feedback of an archtop, but you lose much of the acoustic qualities
&gt; that makes it worthwhile to put up with.&lt;&lt;&lt;

I find it to be the opposite--you get most of the acoustic properties
of a full-depth archtop, with much less feedback.

Danny W.

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