| Big Red [message #215493] |
Sat, 12 March 2005 12:53 |
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I love the sound that guitar makes.
It is very distinctive.
What model is it?
I know tis a Gibson, and I have seen him play another very similar brown
coloured guitar on stage.
Whats the difference?
Maybe a guitar expert can comment?
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| Re: Big Red [message #215494 ] |
Sat, 12 March 2005 12:55 |
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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4232d83b$0$38042$5a6aecb4 [at] news.aaisp.net.uk...
>I love the sound that guitar makes.
> It is very distinctive.
Sorry, forgot to explain what I mean bu that.
It is so reminiscent of the 50's rock and roll guitar sound of people like
Buddy Holly, its got more "twang" than something like a telecaster or
stratocaster.
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| Re: Big Red [message #215495 ] |
Sat, 12 March 2005 13:03 |
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Not an expert, but it is a Gibson 335.
Also referred to by some as a 335 Dot, etc. Classic sound.
Also comes in a sunburst finish as well as black.
Skyvoice
"Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4232d83b$0$38042$5a6aecb4 [at] news.aaisp.net.uk...
> What model is it?
> I know tis a Gibson, and I have seen him play another very similar brown
> coloured guitar on stage.
> Whats the difference?
> Maybe a guitar expert can comment?
>
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| Re: Big Red [message #215496 ] |
Sat, 12 March 2005 17:56 |
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Exact model is Gibson ES-335. I agree, it has a wonderful rich tone.
I've always wanted one myself.
Gordon Hudson wrote:
> I love the sound that guitar makes.
> It is very distinctive.
>
> What model is it?
> I know tis a Gibson, and I have seen him play another very similar
brown
> coloured guitar on stage.
> Whats the difference?
> Maybe a guitar expert can comment?
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| Re: Big Red [message #216151 ] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 16:50 |
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They have them here. But you need to be careful of rip offs. There is
one company that Gibson is suing for creating knock-offs of their
guitars and trying to make them seem legit.
Leah
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| Re: Big Red [message #216154 ] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 16:56 |
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<leahtelos [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> They have them here. But you need to be careful of rip offs. There is
> one company that Gibson is suing for creating knock-offs of their
> guitars and trying to make them seem legit.
>
> Leah
Actually they are not that expensive in real terms.
I am a trumpet player and compared to the cost of a pro trumpet the new
price
is about the same as for a trumpet.
Vintage ones seem to be going for quite reasonable prices (in the UK at
least).
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| Re: Big Red [message #216155 ] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 19:48 |
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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in news:4235b44b$0
$38045$5a6aecb4 [at] news.aaisp.net.uk:
>
> <leahtelos [at] yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1110815431.937600.241450 [at] o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> They have them here. But you need to be careful of rip offs. There is
>> one company that Gibson is suing for creating knock-offs of their
>> guitars and trying to make them seem legit.
>>
>> Leah
>
> Actually they are not that expensive in real terms.
> I am a trumpet player and compared to the cost of a pro trumpet the new
> price
> is about the same as for a trumpet.
> Vintage ones seem to be going for quite reasonable prices (in the UK at
> least).
>
>
Actually there's a funny story around that guitar:
I read in a Guitar World Magazine (to the best I can recall) back in the
early 90's that this guitar was actually loaned to him from a music store
in England. For whatever reason, the guitar wasn't actually for sale.
After the Seventh Sojourn, he reluctantly gave the guitar back. It
wasn't until many years later that he had the chance to actually buy it,
but commented that the guitar was never the same again, I don't remember
why, I think there were some mods done to it that affected the overall
tonality of the instrument. His tone from TOCCC to SS was nothing short
of amazing. Listen to the awesome feedback tones and sustain on "When
You're A Free Man", the solo to "Singer In A Rock-N-Roll Band", "It's Up
To You", & "New Horizons" as primo examples of his "bumbleebee" tone.
Nothing short of amazing. Yes, I'm a guitar player, and Justin was a
huge influence on me.
Great newsgroup BTW...
Listen to the tide slowly turning...
Tedd
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| Re: Big Red [message #216157 ] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 21:37 |
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"tedd" <me [at] me.com> wrote in message news:Xns9619824886C22ddt [at] 24.93.44.119...
> Actually there's a funny story around that guitar:
> I read in a Guitar World Magazine (to the best I can recall) back in the
> early 90's that this guitar was actually loaned to him from a music store
> in England. For whatever reason, the guitar wasn't actually for sale.
> After the Seventh Sojourn, he reluctantly gave the guitar back. It
> wasn't until many years later that he had the chance to actually buy it,
> but commented that the guitar was never the same again, I don't remember
> why, I think there were some mods done to it that affected the overall
> tonality of the instrument. His tone from TOCCC to SS was nothing short
> of amazing. Listen to the awesome feedback tones and sustain on "When
> You're A Free Man", the solo to "Singer In A Rock-N-Roll Band", "It's Up
> To You", & "New Horizons" as primo examples of his "bumbleebee" tone.
> Nothing short of amazing. Yes, I'm a guitar player, and Justin was a
> huge influence on me.
>
> Great newsgroup BTW...
>
> Listen to the tide slowly turning...
> Tedd
maybe its the combination of the semi accoustic body and the old valve amps
as well.
They do have a different response.
In fact listening to Im' just a singer, its obviously a rock style but I
could imagine
that instrument being used in a jazz band.
When I played in big bands the guitar players usually used semi accoustic
guitars like the gretsch (I remember that being a popular one).
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| Re: Big Red [message #216158 ] |
Mon, 14 March 2005 22:18 |
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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4235f603$0$38044$5a6aecb4 [at] news.aaisp.net.uk...
> maybe its the combination of the semi accoustic body and the old valve
> amps as well.
In earlier years Justin used a JMI Vox AC30 more often than not which is a
serious tone machine. He credits that amp primarily for his 60s and early
70s unique sound. Many guitarists today credit the amp for it's warmth of
tone. Combined with a guitar such as the ES-335 only makes the sound so much
sweeter to the ear. I also recall seeing Rose-Morris Vox AC30s in The Moody
Blues' backline in the 70s and during the 80s.
> They do have a different response.
> In fact listening to Im' just a singer, its obviously a rock style but I
> could imagine
> that instrument being used in a jazz band.
ES-335s are not that far removed from Lucille of BB King fame. They are also
a close cousin of the Epiphone Casino which was a guitar used pretty
regularly by George Harrison and John Lennon, to name just a couple of
users. Many attributes are very similar with differences largely found in
the pick ups, wood selections, as well as capacitance specified in the
circuits. Of course, getting into the weeds we can make comparisons, tone
wise, to that of the ES-333 as well. I'm certain there are those around here
much more familiar with some of the differences in these guitars than I.
> When I played in big bands the guitar players usually used semi accoustic
> guitars like the gretsch (I remember that being a popular one).
>
Gretsch still has a distinction of standing alone in a niche tone world
right along with Rickenbacker. Nice guitars with varying levels of
playability.
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| Re: Big Red [message #216160 ] |
Tue, 15 March 2005 08:14 |
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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Actually they are not that expensive in real terms.
> I am a trumpet player and compared to the cost of a pro trumpet the new
> price
> is about the same as for a trumpet.
> Vintage ones seem to be going for quite reasonable prices (in the UK at
> least).
How much was your trumpet?
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| Re: Big Red [message #216161 ] |
Tue, 15 March 2005 09:15 |
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"azure spirit" <gknagy [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Gordon Hudson" <gordon [at] usenet2.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4235b44b$0$38045$5a6aecb4 [at] news.aaisp.net.uk...
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>> Actually they are not that expensive in real terms.
>> I am a trumpet player and compared to the cost of a pro trumpet the new
>> price
>> is about the same as for a trumpet.
>> Vintage ones seem to be going for quite reasonable prices (in the UK at
>> least).
>
> How much was your trumpet?
I have several.
In US currency they would range from about $1500 to $6000
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