| Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114015] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 01:23 |
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Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
part of it.
I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
(the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
Thanks!
-Timothy Tietjen
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114038 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 04:35 |
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Hmmm . . .
Most of the Ed Roman reports I've heard around here haven't been very good.
"JazzPimpNYC" <jazzman4jesus [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102638218.232899.115370 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> part of it.
>
> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> Thanks!
> -Timothy Tietjen
>
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114262 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 21:17 |
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If you're in NYC you need to bring that guitar to Norio Imai on 22nd
St, not Ed Roman of all people! Norio was a top setup/repair guy at
Sadowsky's shop for over 11 years, and he'll fix that guitar for you.
He does fantastic work. He's at 212-675-8404. You can tell him Jim
White told you to call him if you want.
Seriously, do not go the Ed Roman route.
As for making changes to the pickups, I'd go with a Duncan Antiquity or
Fralin PAF myself. But the most important thing is not sending your
guitar to Ed Roman, in case I wasn't clear about that ;-)
jim
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114263 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 21:20 |
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If you're in NYC you need to bring that guitar to Norio Imai on 22nd
St, not Ed Roman of all people! Norio was a top setup/repair guy at
Sadowsky's shop for over 11 years, and he'll fix that guitar for you.
He does fantastic work. He's at 212-675-8404. You can tell him Jim
White told you to call him if you want.
Seriously, do not go the Ed Roman route.
As for making changes to the pickups, I'd go with a Duncan Antiquity or
Fralin PAF myself. But the most important thing is not sending your
guitar to Ed Roman, in case I wasn't clear about that ;-)
jim
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114266 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 21:36 |
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JazzPimpNYC wrote:
> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> part of it.
>
> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> Thanks!
> -Timothy Tietjen
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I have an es165. As far as I'm concerned, that guitar is a one trick
pony. It has one basic sound and that's it.
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114272 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 22:00 |
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"markr" <jazzbo75 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102711008.921093.264590 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> JazzPimpNYC wrote:
> > Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> > part of it.
> >
> > I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> > (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> > seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> > I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> > guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> > buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> > practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> > Thanks!
> > -Timothy Tietjen
> ======================
> I have an es165. As far as I'm concerned, that guitar is a one trick
> pony. It has one basic sound and that's it.
>
Nothin wrong with that.
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114287 ] |
Fri, 10 December 2004 22:56 |
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No, not at all. I like it for the basic, clean jazz sound. I'm not
sure what sort of upgrades would change or improve upon that. It's a
very mid-rangey guitar, so maybe a hotter pickup would give it a
little more push and definition.
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114489 ] |
Sat, 11 December 2004 11:05 |
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I have found that the amp plays a vital role in defining the elec tone.
Since there is a big difference in amplifer/speaker responses you might want
to look into that area if you haven't yet.
skip
"markr" <jazzbo75 [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102715807.264351.246060 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> No, not at all. I like it for the basic, clean jazz sound. I'm not
> sure what sort of upgrades would change or improve upon that. It's a
> very mid-rangey guitar, so maybe a hotter pickup would give it a
> little more push and definition.
>
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114540 ] |
Sat, 11 December 2004 14:55 |
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Get a good ebony bridge made.
JazzPimpNYC wrote:
> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> part of it.
>
> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> Thanks!
> -Timothy Tietjen
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114542 ] |
Sat, 11 December 2004 15:23 |
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #114621 ] |
Sat, 11 December 2004 18:49 |
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[at] optonline.net:
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #192325 ] |
Fri, 14 January 2005 13:00 |
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My son has a 165 and the pickup is fine. I'm not sure what you'd gain by
going to a 57 classic. I suspect the differences would be pretty subtle.
--
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"JazzPimpNYC" <jazzman4jesus [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102638218.232899.115370 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> part of it.
>
> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> Thanks!
> -Timothy Tietjen
>
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #192361 ] |
Fri, 14 January 2005 17:33 |
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Hey Jack,
Is Jeremy still digging the 165? I'd love to hear some clips.
Glen
"Jack A. Zucker" <jaz [at] jackzucker.com> wrote in message
news:MtadnV6Tn-KJKXrcRVn-gA [at] adelphia.com...
> My son has a 165 and the pickup is fine. I'm not sure what you'd gain by
> going to a 57 classic. I suspect the differences would be pretty subtle.
>
> --
> Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
> Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
> "Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar
> governing the way you play music!"
>
> Check it out at:
> http://www.sheetsofsound.net
> "JazzPimpNYC" <jazzman4jesus [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1102638218.232899.115370 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
>> part of it.
>>
>> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
>> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
>> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
>> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
>> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
>> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
>> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
>> Thanks!
>> -Timothy Tietjen
>>
>
>
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| Re: Upgrades for ES-165 [message #192486 ] |
Fri, 14 January 2005 19:30 |
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Yes, Glen.
You can hear a solo piece using your 165 at:
http://www.jeremyzucker.com/audio/attya.mp3
--
Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
Introducing "Sheets of Sound for Guitar"
Check it out at: www.sheetsofsound.net
"Glen McDowell" <gmcdowell2 [at] houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ovSFd.3303$Ta2.2221 [at] fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Hey Jack,
>
> Is Jeremy still digging the 165? I'd love to hear some clips.
>
> Glen
>
> "Jack A. Zucker" <jaz [at] jackzucker.com> wrote in message
> news:MtadnV6Tn-KJKXrcRVn-gA [at] adelphia.com...
> > My son has a 165 and the pickup is fine. I'm not sure what you'd gain by
> > going to a 57 classic. I suspect the differences would be pretty subtle.
> >
> > --
> > Experience a revolutionary way to approach the instrument.
> > Introducing Sheets of Sound for Guitar
> > "Let the music govern the way you play guitar instead of the guitar
> > governing the way you play music!"
> >
> > Check it out at:
> > http://www.sheetsofsound.net
> > "JazzPimpNYC" <jazzman4jesus [at] hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102638218.232899.115370 [at] z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> >> Hey, guys. This is my first post to the group and I'm excited to be a
> >> part of it.
> >>
> >> I own, in addition to my Buscarino, a Gibson ES-165 Herb Ellis model
> >> (the original design), year 1993. The headstock cracked pretty
> >> seriously near the nut a few months ago, but the neck seems fine so
> >> I'll get it repaired and set up by Ed Roman. I was wondering if you
> >> guys had any ideas about upgrades for the guitar. I'm considering
> >> buying a used '57 classic from eBay, but if there are some other
> >> practical and useful hardware upgrades that you know of, let me know.
> >> Thanks!
> >> -Timothy Tietjen
> >>
> >
> >
>
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